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  #2243427 23-May-2019 09:22
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Behodar:

ARM is now following suit.

 

 

That's a more interesting one to consider in regards to long-term implications. They have CPU designs already. They can improve those themselves - albeit they won't be able to go to ARM for technical support anymore - but if ARM is obliged to revoke their ISA license then technically any new CPUs would be in violation and could be banned from US sales.

 

 

Suppose that they switched to MIPS or RISC-V, both of which are open source. That switch will take some time. Even an extremely competent team would need at the very least a couple of years to bring a new chip to production from scratch, and the first one wouldn't be anywhere near as good: bigger, slower, more power hungry.

 

 

So they would have a couple of years where they could be potentially banned from selling "violating" CPUs outside China - even though they were developed without further assistance from ARM - but then would not be able to field competitive home-grown alternatives.

 

 

But if the Chinese government decides to go all-in and bankrolls them through that tough patch they will come out the other side with viable products ... The natural response to which would have to be a blanket ban on buying Huawei products in the US. I wonder how hard the US can beat their supposed allies before they all say enough is enough?




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  #2243448 23-May-2019 09:43
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This is getting serious




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  #2243454 23-May-2019 09:45
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It's all about WMDs deployed by the US

 

Weapons of mass deception





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  #2243455 23-May-2019 09:45
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The hits just keep on coming – according to this tweet, DHL in Hong Kong has now suspended shipments from Huawei.


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  #2243464 23-May-2019 10:00
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Benjip:

 

The hits just keep on coming – according to this tweet, DHL in Hong Kong has now suspended shipments from Huawei.

 

 

Interesting DHL is German. Fonterra will have to be careful or Trump will order them to stop trading with China





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  #2243605 23-May-2019 11:01
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Not sure we should start posting laundry lists of human rights or other abuses perpetrated by the US in their own or other countries here. They've definitely managed to severely devalue the property of people in countries with good trade relations with China. Guess we won't see a Mate 30 Pro or Mate X now either way, which is disappointing. 


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  #2243647 23-May-2019 12:05
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MikeB4:

Benjip:


The hits just keep on coming – according to this tweet, DHL in Hong Kong has now suspended shipments from Huawei.



Interesting DHL is German. Fonterra will have to be careful or Trump will order them to stop trading with China



Argentina and others in South America might be worried as the USA believes that the Monroe doctrine is alive and well.

 
 
 
 


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  #2243661 23-May-2019 12:32
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Vodafone UK suspends preorders for new Huawei phones.

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I wonder how the new os will be. If any good wonder if they will make so can flash onto current devices. Guess we will know in a few months anyway if they haven't settled things.

LOL at narrative change and those helping push it. As long as you focus on China is evil because.... You forget we discussing a single company not responsible for any of it.

I will say though that I enjoy eating at an openly Muslim restaurant when in China that doesn't serve pork and woman wear hijabs and wasn't in a oppressive camp. But hey people can believe what they want. When it comes to believing my own eyes or the media I know which I'm going to believe.

I've seen some funny examples on net on why so bad like wechat payments and blocking Google apple. But that's different nz has history of the same. Now we stuck with competitors and none work everywhere like stone age idiots. China's phone payment system is plain awesome to behold in action. They even have voice readouts.

So they can give scan code for bill and leave you to serve others. Says over speaker paid so can just leave and they know.

I rather enjoy getting all my parcels from the lockers at apartment. They just send through code and type in and look inside locker that opens. Works in reverse to send.

 

 


https://youtu.be/Vos6mPYDmT8 

No letting people in house with smartlock. This is how nz post should be handling cities. Can alway add scales or dispense bags or something. After 24hours lockers start charge rent.


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  #2243776 23-May-2019 14:24
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Sigh....am leaving the country in a few weeks. Probably should (try) and sell my Mate 20 Pro I take it? What a ridiculous world we live in. 


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  #2243788 23-May-2019 14:35
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I think it is a bit early to panic about this.

 

USA companies can trade with Huawei provided they have a license. Google and other companies will by applying for a licences as we speak. Once licenses are granted and denied for the various companies we will see exactly what the USA's beef is. It might be to slow the theft of IP (as sibble pointed out), it could be punishment for Huawei selling gear to Iran, or it could be simply to stop telco's buying 5G gear. If it is to stop telco's buying 5G gear, then Google will receive a license (AT&T won't) and you can all relax and keep your P30's.


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Snackos:

 

Sigh....am leaving the country in a few weeks. Probably should (try) and sell my Mate 20 Pro I take it? What a ridiculous world we live in. 

 

 

My feeling is that the only people buying used ones at the moment will be bargain hunters. Your phone should keep working fine, although new builds of Android and maybe security updates are questionable. And then all this may blow over in a week or month or two. I guess it depends on the level of risk you can live with, somewhat like the sharemarket?  





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  #2243841 23-May-2019 15:18
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Spong:

Snackos:

 

Sigh....am leaving the country in a few weeks. Probably should (try) and sell my Mate 20 Pro I take it? What a ridiculous world we live in. 

 

 

My feeling is that the only people buying used ones at the moment will be bargain hunters. Your phone should keep working fine, although new builds of Android and maybe security updates are questionable. And then all this may blow over in a week or month or two. I guess it depends on the level of risk you can live with, somewhat like the sharemarket?  

 

I agree. Huawei handsets will have only limited resale value at present so you are better off just to keep using them.

 

Curiously, quite a few near new P30 Pro's have hit Trade me in last two days at extremely hopeful pricing. People selling for a variety of reasons, none of which are "we are trying to bail", eg - now prefer iPhone so moving, bought new, but boss bought me a new phone same day so no longer need. etc.

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  #2243943 23-May-2019 16:48
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Wonder if China will strike back by going down this road,

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3011108/explainer-used-iphones-guided-missiles-does-chinas-dominance

Looks like China supplies about 90% of rare materials.

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