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  #2247660 29-May-2019 11:48
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freitasm:

 

Back on topic... @TeaLeaf asked "Can we trust other asian phones..." and I argued that every other phone would be doing something with your personal data - and you wouldn't even know it. So here is an article from today's Washington Post "It’s the middle of the night. Do you know who your iPhone is talking to?"

 

 

 

 

That was a very interesting read. Thank you for sharing it. 

I'm not overly worried about my metadata (phone, carrier, browsing preferences) but location is another matter. Might have a serious look at that Disconnect.me page once I get past the dreaded birthday period of the year and have more disposable income :)





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  #2247693 29-May-2019 13:02
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This is the answer

 

 

 


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  #2247732 29-May-2019 14:22
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  #2247742 29-May-2019 14:42
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@Batman:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12235267

 

 

Yes, this is the NZ Herald re-publishing the Washington Post, which I already linked in the previous page here - with a quote.





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  #2247768 29-May-2019 15:18
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A better phrased question would be: "Can we trust _any_ phones?"

 

Go watch a few youtube videos about a man called Bill Binney who used to work for the NSA. The man is refreshingly honest.


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  #2248719 30-May-2019 20:33
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elbrownos:

 

I love my Xiaomi phone but I replaced the OS with LineageOS as soon as I got it. Wouldn't dream of using it otherwise.

 

 

Ok this is more what I meant. When your 3 years of OS updates run out, what do you do with the phone, throw it away? Seems thats what android wants.

 

Are phones safe once they no longer get updates?


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  #2248722 30-May-2019 20:36
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TeaLeaf:

 

Are phones safe once they no longer get updates?

 

 

Not really, but with android that seems to be the case from the day they make it with some phones. ios is way ahead in that area which is why some places will only let staff byod a currently supported iphone.





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  #2248725 30-May-2019 20:40
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Batman:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12235267

 

 

what is the answer to avoiding this on your phone? dont download any apps? I always switch off GPS and Data while not in use for 2 reasons, sending my private info, ie where i go and secondly it uses up my battery. i should also switch off wifi when at home?


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  #2248726 30-May-2019 20:42
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richms:

 

TeaLeaf:

 

Are phones safe once they no longer get updates?

 

 

Not really, but with android that seems to be the case from the day they make it with some phones. ios is way ahead in that area which is why some places will only let staff byod a currently supported iphone.

 

 

So why are there so many people using 6 year old android phones still? What is the security threat? I wouldnt have thought they are any more hackable than a new phone, but malware? but malware you could get on a new phone?

 

Its a bit like, out of the 100s of millions of people with phones out of Android date, why would they choose to hack you anyway?

 

I dont see why an older phone is worse than a new phone?


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  #2248728 30-May-2019 20:45
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MikeB4:

 

This is the answer

 

 

 

 

 

Mne just died Mike, honestly its what I have been using haha after my windows phone broke.


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  #2248735 30-May-2019 20:54
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TeaLeaf:

 

Batman:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12235267

 

 

what is the answer to avoiding this on your phone? dont download any apps? I always switch off GPS and Data while not in use for 2 reasons, sending my private info, ie where i go and secondly it uses up my battery. i should also switch off wifi when at home?

 

 

well done, you've answered the question on your thread title





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Why thank you Batman

 

 

It would be nice if there was a good version of disconnect.me you could use on older phones and then just hit a button and it turns off all connections while you sleep.

 

 

so far 14 trackers on this website in 4 minutes ive been back. but really, for mobile, isnt it apps thats the real security threat for older phones?

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Apps, known giant holes in bluetooth and wifi that they will never get patches for, the webview that will never see an update so any app that opens a webview if you're on a compromised network will let you be taken over are the easiest ones that dont really require a specific app.

 

Also later androids have more fine graned control over what legit access is given to apps compared to the antiques still out there with 4.something on it.

 

The biggest problem is that the type of person too cheap to upgrade their antique is also the sort of person chasing down the free wifi at places, never removing those SSIDs from their phone once done using it etc.

 

IMO google should perpetually warn you at the top of gmail etc if you have any active sessions from obsolete operating systems, but they will never do it since it will just promote the idea that android updates are a burning tyre fire mess to people.





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surfisup1000: . Every chinese company has a government oversight department. 

 



Are you for real?
My dad used to run a wholesale company in Shanghai and I can tell you this is total BS.

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My dad used to run a wholesale company in Shanghai and I can tell you this is total BS.

 

 

Times have changed.


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