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  #2377425 18-Dec-2019 07:53
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Just had a look at the video frame rate settings on my copy of Open Camera and it offers 15, 24, 25, 30, 60, 96, 100, 120.


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  #2377465 18-Dec-2019 08:04
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sqishy:

 

Its simple mate:

 

You buy a phone to make calls.

 

You buy a camera to take photos.

 

You buy a video camera to make movies.

 

 

 

 

Maybe last century. 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2377475 18-Dec-2019 08:40
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richms: computers have always been 60Hz

 

 

In the CRT days, 50/60/70/75 Hz were all common. They've standardised on 60, but saying that computers have "always" been 60 is incorrect.


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  #2377485 18-Dec-2019 09:00
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MurrayM:

Just had a look at the video frame rate settings on my copy of Open Camera and it offers 15, 24, 25, 30, 60, 96, 100, 120.



Same. Actually mine goes all the way to 240!
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Seems like another whinge post rather than checking things out.

Aside from playing your movie on something like an 8mm reel, why does 24fps matter? I'm in the higher rate = generally better. I do know the higher you go the more chance for noise etc (eg same with higher iso on a still camera). Or in other words: why doesn't 30 or 60fps work for the OP.

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  #2377509 18-Dec-2019 10:06
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nzkc: Same. Actually mine goes all the way to 240!


Seems like another whinge post rather than checking things out.

Aside from playing your movie on something like an 8mm reel, why does 24fps matter? I'm in the higher rate = generally better. I do know the higher you go the more chance for noise etc (eg same with higher iso on a still camera). Or in other words: why doesn't 30 or 60fps work for the OP.

 

I'm not terribly sympathetic to the OP, these are things that can be checked out before buying. I like to play with the framerate, I try and record in 24fps most of the time. On the GoPro, the higher frame rates look more soap opera or a bit jarring. 

 

My phone has 24, 30 and 60. Android and getting old. 


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  #2377510 18-Dec-2019 10:08
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I tried things at 120 because that looks so much better, but adobe trash software only wants to support broadcast framerates so I had no way to edit it properly. That may have changed recently but I still see people complaining about premiere pros lack of flexible framerates. Guess they will be stuffed when h266 comes out with support for variable framerates within the same file... Mmmm good gsync recording finally I hope.





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  #2377511 18-Dec-2019 10:08
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freitasm:

 

I don't understand. Can you see a difference in videos recorded at 30fps vs 25fps?

 

 

Well... I can. But I work day in and day out with such frame rates. Most people can't tell. Which is fair enough.

 

It's not about the actual frame rates.

 

It's about being able to mix and match footage with other devices in a consistent manner.

 

 


 
 
 
 




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  #2377514 18-Dec-2019 10:10
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MurrayM:

 

Just had a look at the video frame rate settings on my copy of Open Camera and it offers 15, 24, 25, 30, 60, 96, 100, 120.

 

 

Do they work?

 

On my phone, I change it to 25 fps, but when I record Open Camera shows it at 30fps

 

Just because it has the numbers, doesn't mean it can do it.


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  #2377516 18-Dec-2019 10:15
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Behodar:

 

richms: computers have always been 60Hz

 

 

In the CRT days, 50/60/70/75 Hz were all common. They've standardised on 60, but saying that computers have "always" been 60 is incorrect.

 

 

There also was 85i and some other crazy ones, but video on PCs has always been 60 or a divisor of that, like 15 on some of that early aweful CD rom stuff in the postage stampd frame. Pre mpeg video that was barely recognizable at the time. 50 I only recall on home computers to match the analog TV systems at the times, and that predated full motion video on computers prettymuch.





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  #2377517 18-Dec-2019 10:18
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nzkc:
MurrayM:

 

Just had a look at the video frame rate settings on my copy of Open Camera and it offers 15, 24, 25, 30, 60, 96, 100, 120.

 



Same. Actually mine goes all the way to 240!
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Seems like another whinge post rather than checking things out.

Aside from playing your movie on something like an 8mm reel, why does 24fps matter? I'm in the higher rate = generally better. I do know the higher you go the more chance for noise etc (eg same with higher iso on a still camera). Or in other words: why doesn't 30 or 60fps work for the OP.

 

No, I have checked it out.

 

I have tried Open Camera, FilmicPro, Cinema FV-5

 

Despite them having the option to select 25fps, the recorded clips show as bring recorded at 30fps.

 

As I say above, its about being able to mix and match footage from different devices. If all you are doing is clips to upload to YouTube or whatever, then more power to you. This post is not about you.

 

As for frame rates, if you like 60 fps or 120 fps, go for it.

 

But for me and many people, they look like old soap opera.

 

It the right situation, sure.

 

But that's simply not the issue. It's the mixing footage when editing that is critical.

 

If you never do it, then your life is simpler. Those of us who have to, for many reasons, need a consistent frame rate across all the devices being used.

 

 

 

 




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  #2377520 18-Dec-2019 10:25
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mudguard:

 

I'm not terribly sympathetic to the OP, these are things that can be checked out before buying. I like to play with the framerate, I try and record in 24fps most of the time. On the GoPro, the higher frame rates look more soap opera or a bit jarring. 

 

My phone has 24, 30 and 60. Android and getting old. 

 

 

I did make an assumption that the Samsung Galaxy S10+ (the flagship phone of Samsung) was at least as capable as my iPhone 6S which it was replacing.

 

And since any number of video apps on my iPhone 6S are capable of recording at 24, 25, 30 fps etc, with no apparent difficulty, it seemed a reasonable assumption.

 

I was wrong.

 

I would like to enact change and get Samsung / Android to allow third party apps to access all the relevant capabilities so that even if they don't want to do it, then 3rd parties can.

 

They already lock off access to parts of the camera APIs for no reason I can see than "because I said". For instance, they don't allow access to all the lenses on a phone. 

 

 




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  #2377524 18-Dec-2019 10:30
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mudguard:

 

My phone has 24, 30 and 60. Android and getting old. 

 

 

So, can I ask, what phone and what software are you using to get 24 fps.


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  #2377527 18-Dec-2019 10:53
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normanc:

 

MurrayM:

 

Just had a look at the video frame rate settings on my copy of Open Camera and it offers 15, 24, 25, 30, 60, 96, 100, 120.

 

 

Do they work?

 

On my phone, I change it to 25 fps, but when I record Open Camera shows it at 30fps

 

Just because it has the numbers, doesn't mean it can do it.

 

 

Appears to work on my phone (Vodafone Smart V8). I set Open Camera to 25 fps, recorded something, then went into MX Player and viewed the details about the video file and it says it's 25 fps.

 

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  #2377532 18-Dec-2019 10:58
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normanc:

 

mudguard:

 

My phone has 24, 30 and 60. Android and getting old. 

 

 

So, can I ask, what phone and what software are you using to get 24 fps.

 

 

 

 

It's an LG G7.




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  #2377534 18-Dec-2019 11:07
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MurrayM:

 

 

 

Appears to work on my phone (Vodafone Smart V8). I set Open Camera to 25 fps, recorded something, then went into MX Player and viewed the details about the video file and it says it's 25 fps.

 

 

That'll teach me for trying to buy a flagship phone.

 

So seems it's Samsung being the dicks here.


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