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  #2420951 14-Feb-2020 12:42
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NikT:

 

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IronH: I put my pre-order in for the PBTech Sennheiser bundle. Will likely flip the sennheisers as already have to many headphones - a number of which came from other pre-order deals - Bose headphones with mate 20, JBL headphones with P30, galaxy buds with S10 etc

 

 

 

Yes I know what you mean, they really need to mix these bundles up a bit and offer different stuff...PB Tech have a really good offer for a free electric Scooter with the Note 10+ currently, as well as a free fitness watch with others...its a shame these aren't bundled instead of the usual wireless headphones/bluetooth speaker.

 

 

Hahaha good on ya, always wonder if folks are amassing a solid collection of bundle bonuses. Did once hear of a chap who ended up with 3x first-gen PXC 550.

 

It's a lot of fun building them and we try to shake it up with a variety rather than same-old-same-old. My favourite to date is still the Executive Bundle with the Galaxy Note8, buy a phone, get a chair, although LG V30+ with Sennheiser HD 599 and Mate 20 Pro with Bose QC35-II were up there too.

 

The constructs, logistics, and politics for these offers are complex and delicate. It has changed the market a lot in the past few years, and I often think of folks in small towns who might only have a Spark store or similar and will get phones with bonus TV offers etc. that wouldn't have happened if the market hadn't become so competitive.

 

This year it's a very recently released set of high-end headphones and a very large Bluetooth speaker (with built-in powerbank and bottle opener of all things), plus a high-end router, against last year's S10 Arlo/headphones/speaker+charger sets. Compares fairly favourably to my mind, but good to know scooters and wearables are of interest.

 

 

NikT you have been wonderful .Just one question popped-up from Discussion with a PBTech employee. I was told that PBTech will not entertain any warranty claims for bundled items any longer . It is correct? 

 

 


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  #2420982 14-Feb-2020 13:10
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NikT you have been wonderful .Just one question popped-up from Discussion with a PBTech employee. I was told that PBTech will not entertain any warranty claims for bundled items any longer . It is correct? 

 

 

 

 

That's odd, and not the case. Full manufacturer warranty applies to bundled items. In the case of, e.g. the first-gen PXC 550 where the product is end of life and more stock can't be sourced, there should be the option of either waiting for the manufacturer to repair it, or replacement with an equivalent model.





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  #2421238 14-Feb-2020 21:45
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For me there's no real stand out deal. If anybody offered a new Samsung watch then sure.. 

 

Couple things I picked up on is that its strange that Spark/Vodafone/2 Degrees don't offer the same data plans so it makes it hard to compare like for like. Also, even after triple checking, Spark's $300 credit would not apply at any point during the check out process. Had to calculate myself. Very amateur.


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  #2421242 14-Feb-2020 22:15
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bmt:

 

For me there's no real stand out deal. If anybody offered a new Samsung watch then sure.. 

 

 

Agreed. Was really hoping for a watch. Would have purchased that immediately.


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  #2421248 14-Feb-2020 23:06
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does s20 have 5g?





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  #2421251 14-Feb-2020 23:26
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No!

 
 
 
 


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  #2421270 15-Feb-2020 07:54
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wow ... ok ... thanks. no 5g!





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  #2421280 15-Feb-2020 08:42
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wow ... ok ... thanks. no 5g!

 

 

there are 5g variants that haven't been discussed here. PB likely aren't stocking those? - Nik?





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  #2421284 15-Feb-2020 08:53
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hio77:

Batman:


wow ... ok ... thanks. no 5g!



there are 5g variants that haven't been discussed here. PB likely aren't stocking those? - Nik?



Samsung NZ only has the 4g S20 as an option for preorder, do telcos/retailers get other NZ market options not available direct to the public?

At least the S20+ and ultra both have sub-6ghz and mmWave, for whenever the latter turns up.

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  #2421286 15-Feb-2020 08:56
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ShinyChrome:

At least the S20+ and ultra both have sub-6ghz and mmWave, for whenever the latter turns up.

 

See that bit is up in the air.

 

 

 

the device would do mmWave and both NSA and SA, but the actual specs dont indicate mmWave for the device specced for outside of NA regions.

 

Highly likely this is Software configured, but eh. I'm tentative about trusting it.

 

 

 

I've skipped your other question as, i can't really answer that. i don't have those details that can be shared.





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  #2421287 15-Feb-2020 08:58
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hio77:

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wow ... ok ... thanks. no 5g!



there are 5g variants that haven't been discussed here. PB likely aren't stocking those? - Nik?



For clarity: Two of the three NZ S20 models support 5G. If you're buying local stock they're all the same hardware no matter which telco or retailer you buy from.

S20 - SM-G980F - 4G only for NZ, 5G models available in other markets*, comes in blue, pink, or grey, $1499 RRP
S20+ - SM-G986B - 5G for NZ, available in blue, grey, or black, $1899 RRP
S20 Ultra - SM-G988B - 5G for NZ, available in grey or black, $2199 RRP

All models for NZ are 3-choose-2 Dual Nano SIM + eSIM.

There are still per-telco software variants, i.e. 2degrees variant, Vodafone variant, Spark variant, but they're pre-configured a little differently from years past this time around and should share software builds more closely than Galaxy S models did before.

* At a higher price of course, ~+$200. UK for example is selling both the 4G and the 5G base model S20 side by side. Good move on Samsung NZ's part to keep the base model at $1499 so there's a comparatively affordable option for folks who have no immediate need/use/desire for 5G capabilities they can't use yet.




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  #2421308 15-Feb-2020 09:30
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ShinyChrome: Samsung NZ only has the 4g S20 as an option for preorder, do telcos/retailers get other NZ market options not available direct to the public?

At least the S20+ and ultra both have sub-6ghz and mmWave, for whenever the latter turns up.


As Hio notes, mmwave is not currently listed in the spec sheets for the Exynos 990 5G variants but is supported in hardware (at least at the modem level, can't speak for antennas and power amplifiers) so may come later. The old adage applies about not buying phones based on future availability of software or features, but Samsung do have a track record of issuing updates to enable additional network features as network support comes online. EDIT: It appears the Exynos S20 variants do not have the rest of the hardware needed for mmwave.

On the ranging and SKU availability piece, I can shed a little light on this process as it pertains to my experience in the industry. I look after a chunk of the ranging process for a number of PB's distribution brands, including Xiaomi, Vivo, LG, and OnePlus. I would not pretend to speak for Samsung NZ or the telcos in any way.

To get a device from roadmap to physical retail product in NZ requires a bit more work than most realise. This is due to A. AU/NZ using a different charger than the rest of the world, and B. AU/NZ requiring quite strict electrical safety certification vs. the rest of the world (RCM, worth looking into if curious). This means you can't just take a product available in the EU or US or China and bring it to NZ - many do, and for the trade market this ends up being a technically-illegal-but-rarely-policed grey area, but the big players needfully and responsibly play it by the book. All of this plus NZ's CGA and market-standard 24 month warranty go into the "NZ tax" we see as the delta between, say, a US RRP that doesn't include sales tax, and the NZ RRP that does include GST and the above. Looking at other markets, NZ has done well on the S20 series pricing this year.

So the SKUs will be locked down fairly early on. All of this takes time. To some extent that's decided with input from key partners in telco and retail land and based off of sales projections, past performance, availability, time to market, propositions, and many other factors that the product manager for the given product needs to consider.

Each of the NZ telcos have their own preferences for software and need to certify each device and software build before it's sold on their network. This and the above mean that, generally speaking, there will not be any additional variants that are available to order in the backend but not ranged or sold, because the work required - and the cost + lead time of that work - mean that process won't even begin before ranging is 100% confirmed.

There are a few exceptions to this that I'm not at liberty to get into the details of. For the most part, if a product can be sold in NZ, it will be.





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  #2421334 15-Feb-2020 10:33
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Has anyone seen the retail demo S20s in any retail stores?

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  #2421337 15-Feb-2020 10:49
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heavenlywild: Has anyone seen the retail demo S20s in any retail stores?


Yes virtually everyone at Albany mall had them in when I went on the 13th

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