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  #2421342 15-Feb-2020 10:58
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ShinyChrome: Samsung NZ only has the 4g S20 as an option for preorder, do telcos/retailers get other NZ market options not available direct to the public?

At least the S20+ and ultra both have sub-6ghz and mmWave, for whenever the latter turns up.


As Hio notes, mmwave is not currently listed in the spec sheets for the Exynos 990 5G variants but is supported in hardware (at least at the modem level, can't speak for antennas and power amplifiers) so may come later. The old adage applies about not buying phones based on future availability of software or features, but Samsung do have a track record of issuing updates to enable additional network features as network support comes online.

On the ranging and SKU availability piece, I can shed a little light on this process as it pertains to my experience in the industry. I look after a chunk of the ranging process for a number of PB's distribution brands, including Xiaomi, Vivo, LG, and OnePlus. I would not pretend to speak for Samsung NZ or the telcos in any way.

To get a device from roadmap to physical retail product in NZ requires a bit more work than most realise. This is due to A. AU/NZ using a different charger than the rest of the world, and B. AU/NZ requiring quite strict electrical safety certification vs. the rest of the world (RCM, worth looking into if curious). This means you can't just take a product available in the EU or US or China and bring it to NZ - many do, and for the trade market this ends up being a technically-illegal-but-rarely-policed grey area, but the big players needfully and responsibly play it by the book. All of this plus NZ's CGA and market-standard 24 month warranty go into the "NZ tax" we see as the delta between, say, a US RRP that doesn't include sales tax, and the NZ RRP that does include GST and the above. Looking at other markets, NZ has done well on the S20 series pricing this year.

So the SKUs will be locked down fairly early on. All of this takes time. To some extent that's decided with input from key partners in telco and retail land and based off of sales projections, past performance, availability, time to market, propositions, and many other factors that the product manager for the given product needs to consider.

Each of the NZ telcos have their own preferences for software and need to certify each device and software build before it's sold on their network. This and the above mean that, generally speaking, there will not be any additional variants that are available to order in the backend but not ranged or sold, because the work required - and the cost + lead time of that work - mean that process won't even begin before ranging is 100% confirmed.

There are a few exceptions to this that I'm not at liberty to get into the details of. For the most part, if a product can be sold in NZ, it will be.



My phones become obsolete before they break.

Any ideas if the 5g on these s20 phones will work with spark future 5g deployment or is it too early to tell?




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  #2421343 15-Feb-2020 11:08
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My phones become obsolete before they break.

Any ideas if the 5g on these s20 phones will work with spark future 5g deployment or is it too early to tell?


While it is too early to tell for certain, all telcos have band plans which are shared with their vendor partners in advance.

Given Samsung are #1 in NZ and this is the biggest phone launch of the year + will give Spark a 5G-ready customer base for when Spark 5G does go live, I think it's safe to assume the network will support these devices.




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  #2421344 15-Feb-2020 11:10
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Government also announced early specturm they will be auctioning short term this year...




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  #2421346 15-Feb-2020 11:11
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@NikT thanks for sharing your insights. Just thought I should say that for others too who I'm sure value your input as much as myself.

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  #2421348 15-Feb-2020 11:14
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On that note... Nik, do you know if they kept field test mode in?




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  #2421354 15-Feb-2020 11:27
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hio77: Government also announced early specturm they will be auctioning short term this year...


When is spark 5g expected to go live?




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  #2421357 15-Feb-2020 11:28
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Batman:
hio77: Government also announced early specturm they will be auctioning short term this year...


When is spark 5g expected to go live?

Spark has 5g live in the south?

Past them I'm sure you know I can't comment. I was pointing out public knowledge.




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mmWave won't be supported due to a missing RF part.


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  #2421417 15-Feb-2020 14:37
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hio77:
Batman:
hio77: Government also announced early specturm they will be auctioning short term this year...


When is spark 5g expected to go live?

Spark has 5g live in the south?

Past them I'm sure you know I can't comment. I was pointing out public knowledge.


Wow and so it has! Seems to be a rural broadband service.




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Had a play today at NL. Well built and easier to hold than my Note 9 due to the narrower screen ratio. Surprised that the Ultra is only a few mm taller than my Note 9.

The 10x zoom on the Ultra delivers some crisp and noise-free photos! Whereas the100x zoom is really unusable and a bit of a gimmick.

I was set on the S20 Plus but now considering the Ultra!

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  #2421467 15-Feb-2020 17:50
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@NikT Do you know if there will be any colour options on the bundled Buds+ of if they are all white like the S10 bundles?


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  #2421473 15-Feb-2020 18:09
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@NikT Do you know if there will be any colour options on the bundled Buds+ of if they are all white like the S10 bundles?



The bundled Buds+ are black this year. Market-wide for NZ.

Nice surprise, especially since the white ones are bundled over the ditch.

I'm looking forward to testing them out, I like the original flavour Galaxy Buds a lot.




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NikT:
landcruiserguy:

@NikT Do you know if there will be any colour options on the bundled Buds+ of if they are all white like the S10 bundles?



The bundled Buds+ are black this year. Market-wide for NZ.

Nice surprise, especially since the white ones are bundled over the ditch.

I'm looking forward to testing them out, I like the original flavour Galaxy Buds a lot.



Thanks for your response. I had a chat with a samsung Guy at Noel leeming yesterday, he was telling us that phone will be available next Wednesday and may be delivered or handed over next friday. Is there any possibility if getting the phone arelier than 6th March 2020 ?

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Unable to register for the Samsung student discount with my uni email address :/

 

Edit: looks like I was on the US store. Can't find a working link to any Samsung NZ Education/Student store.. Do you have a link?


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  #2421658 16-Feb-2020 09:48
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I think the PB bundle is still a better deal than the student discount if you can sell the headphones and ear buds.

I'm thinking you could sell the headphones for $350 and the buds for $200?

Unless the student discount also comes with buds?

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