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  #2482605 13-May-2020 11:04
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Morning folks,

 

You have read correctly, 5G is not currently enabled on the OnePlus 8 series for use in NZ. This is not an issue specific to the stock that PB will be distributing, rather it is OnePlus' decision not to enable 5G capabilities for regions they have not specifically partnered with an operator in at this time. The difference between PB and parallel importers (other than ANZ fast charger, real 24 month warranty service, the safety certification required by law, and demo units) is that we have taken the time and expense to test this before launch and let customers know upfront so that they can make an informed decision.

 

OnePlus have provided us with the following statement: "Currently, the OnePlus 8 Series is 5G-capable in the below countries: USA, United Kingdom, Germany, Finland, Italy, Spain, Austria and China."

 

This is their decision to lock it down in software at launch rather than an issue with the device's hardware. I am quite certain there will be unofficial means to unlock the capability, and it may be unlocked in software officially later down the road, however as it stands today these products do not attach to Voda NZ's 5G network out of the box. I am also quite certain that parallel importers currently advertising the 5G capabilities of these products will have very unhappy customers.

 

Just watch, it'll mysteriously disappear from product listings after this post... :)

 

NZ, among many other smaller countries, has enjoyed extremely wide interoperability of smartphones with local networks for many years. 3G and 4G have been comparatively straightforward once the chipsets and frequencies deployed stabilised. This is not yet the case with 5G. Being a brand new and emerging technology, there is significant work required to optimise for 5G sub6 - brands like Samsung, Oppo, and Huawei have spent months working with VFNZ and Spark to get this work done. It's also very expensive to implement in handsets, requiring new and elaborate internal antenna + power amplifier designs and precise tuning, per market, per network. We saw interoperability issues with 5G coming some time ago and reached out to our friends at Voda NZ to confirm that their 5G network will accept any hardware that is correctly specced and capable of connecting to it - this is indeed the case, and is in contrast to the UK, for example, where 5G-capable devices initially needed to be added to operator whitelists before they would attach.

 

Incidentally, numerous other 5G devices configured for specific 5G networks, including a number of Australian-market 5G models, will not attach to 5G in NZ either.

 

At OnePlus' suggestion, we had samples sent to NZ for testing prior to launch and can confirm the stock configuration of the software will not attach. Given the high prices and premium nature of these products, it was only fair and right to be certain this was the case before making a call on ranging them. This was a tough call, as it's at best rough to pay for hardware you can't use - but that beats paying for hardware you can't use and finding out after you've bought it. Had there been 4G variants available, we would have ranged those instead, but you can partially thank Qualcomm's strategy with the SD865 platform for the spike in flagship prices this year.

 

That said - the OnePlus 8 Pro in particular is a phenomenal product. I have one in hand and cannot say enough good things about it. Screen, design, ergonomics, and finally camera are all top tier. Truly excellent in ways a OnePlus smartphone has never quite been before. It is absolutely fair to choose not to buy this product for the absence of 5G. The important thing is that everyone considering buying these products knows ahead of time that this feature is not available right now. Given the massive interest we've had in it + 5G will be largely irrelevant to the majority of NZ for the majority of this device's useful lifespan, we've decided to bring it to market and give our customers an informed choice.

 

Stay tuned for pre-order.

 

Cheers,

 

 - Nik

 

 





Product Manager @ PB Tech

https://pbtech.co.nz/smartphones


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  #2482678 13-May-2020 12:08
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So....no 5G, no warp speed charger, no warp speed wireless charger either. Keep removing features and that price gets harder to justify.


 
 
 
 


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  #2482680 13-May-2020 12:11
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NikT:

 

Stay tuned for pre-order.

 

Cheers,

 

 - Nik

 

 

 

 

Will PBtech get the Ultramarine Blue Color as an option?


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  #2482703 13-May-2020 13:00
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Kopkiwi:

 

So....no 5G, no warp speed charger, no warp speed wireless charger either. Keep removing features and that price gets harder to justify.

 

 

it has 5G, its just not enabled at the moment, it has a warp charger, you just need to use a travel adapter, and you cant import the wireless charger and sell it as a business as it doesn't comply with NZ regulations but there is nothing to stop you doing that yourself.

 

thats decisions you need to make when buying it but the prices isnt going to drop because of it.


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  #2482718 13-May-2020 13:24
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Jase2985:

 

Kopkiwi:

 

So....no 5G, no warp speed charger, no warp speed wireless charger either. Keep removing features and that price gets harder to justify.

 

 

it has 5G, its just not enabled at the moment, it has a warp charger, you just need to use a travel adapter, and you cant import the wireless charger and sell it as a business as it doesn't comply with NZ regulations but there is nothing to stop you doing that yourself.

 

thats decisions you need to make when buying it but the prices isnt going to drop because of it.

 

 

He was referring to the one supplied by pbtech. they wont come with the oneplus warp charger. its being replaced by some 20w ones. Lets see what oppo does with its find x2 pro.


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  #2482728 13-May-2020 13:42
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XinfinityoO:

 

He was referring to the one supplied by pbtech. they wont come with the oneplus warp charger. its being replaced by some 20w ones. Lets see what oppo does with its find x2 pro.

 

 

where have they said they are removing the OP warp charger and substituting a 20W one? last time they gave you the oppo? one along with whats in the box.


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  #2482730 13-May-2020 13:44
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Jase2985:

 

XinfinityoO:

 

He was referring to the one supplied by pbtech. they wont come with the oneplus warp charger. its being replaced by some 20w ones. Lets see what oppo does with its find x2 pro.

 

 

where have they said they are removing the OP warp charger and substituting a 20W one? last time they gave you the oppo? one along with whats in the box.

 

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/promotions/oneplus-8

 

pretty sure they will replace it since they are being NZ certified and providing 2 year warranty, they wont include something which is not certified, just remembered, you had issues with supero providing warp charges and had arguments with other posters. consider this my last reply to you :), no time for that


 
 
 
 


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  #2482777 13-May-2020 13:58
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XinfinityoO:

 

pretty sure they will replace it since they are being NZ certified and providing 2 year warranty, they wont include something which is not certified, just remembered, you had issues with supero providing warp charges and had arguments with other posters. consider this my last reply to you :), no time for that

 

 

Okay, just chiming in with my own experience - having bought the 7 Pro from PB last year, I was given everything in the box (warp charger included) as well as a 20W Oppo NZ VOOC fast charger bundled.

 

Unless that's changed now, I believe that'll be the same case with the 8 series as well. Removing the warp charger would require opening and re-sealing the box, and that's just too much trouble for everyone involved. 


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  #2482778 13-May-2020 13:59
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@XinfinityoO my argument/questions were about not including a NZ charger not about keeping the warp charger in the box.


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  #2484207 15-May-2020 08:57
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NikT:

 

OnePlus have provided us with the following statement: "Currently, the OnePlus 8 Series is 5G-capable in the below countries: USA, United Kingdom, Germany, Finland, Italy, Spain, Austria and China."

 

 

The latest OxygenOS 10.5.6/10.5.7/10.5.8 update enables 5G for Telia Norway, so it looks like there are rolling out more countries for 5G - lets hope NZ makes it onto that list.

 

 

 

 


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  #2484215 15-May-2020 09:13
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There are 4 region based models for oneplus 8 pro and by default have different frequency enabled on them.

 

5G bands
1, 3, 7, 28, 78 SA/NSA - EU (IN2023)
2, 5, 41, 66, 71 SA/NSA - NA (IN2025)
41, 78, 79 SA/NSA - CN (IN2020)
78 SA/NSA - IN

 

I think the EU one marked as global version. Please remember there is a difference between global version and global rom. Some are selling the CN ones with global rom installed on it.

 

 

 

AU - https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/oneplus-8-pro

 

NZ - https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/NZ/oneplus-8-pro

 

 

 

Hopefully PBtech Sells the EU\Global Version. Supero\ sells the CN, ParallelImport and DSE sells EU

 

 




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  #2484407 15-May-2020 13:00
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One more reason to buy the 8 Pro, see through certain objects using the 5MP color filter sensor!

 

Guess I will stop wearing the "I'm with stupid" undershirts at work...


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#2484496 15-May-2020 15:31
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phobius:

 

Hi All,

 

 

 

I'm new here.  Have also ordered from Supero.  And it's on the way.  Very excited.  Ordered on Sunday. Will let you know when it arrives.

 

 

 

 

It's arrived! :-) 


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  #2484500 15-May-2020 15:37
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phobius:

 

phobius:

 

Hi All,

 

 

 

I'm new here.  Have also ordered from Supero.  And it's on the way.  Very excited.  Ordered on Sunday. Will let you know when it arrives.

 

 

 

 

It's arrived! :-) 

 

 

sweet, can you share pics and the model? is it IN2020 ??


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  #2484515 15-May-2020 16:10
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Bloody hell that was quick. Ordered mine on Tuesday and haven’t had shipping notification yet

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