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#289858 14-Jan-2010 07:38

Well on two diffferent BT handsfrees I got this experience.

1. Press BT button - dials last number on the N1
2. Press BT button - error

Reading the google newsgroups this appears to be a major omission in Android. I don't want to have to press buttons on the phone when driving and looking at the phone - this is now illegal in NZ

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#290247 15-Jan-2010 10:29

Just a comment about today's Stuff review of the Google Nexus One: it says "all three network in New Zealand support GSM".

This is incorrect. Telecom New Zealand is a WCDMA network ony, it does not support GSM. Vodafone and 2degress operate mixed networks with GSM and WCDMA.

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#290262 15-Jan-2010 11:18

You can use Voice dialing on almost any of the rooted ROMs. It works very well, *but* needs one touch to start it and, instead of asking for voice confirmation of the requested number, it presents a box on the screen you have to touch....so you CAN voice dial except you need to touch it to start it and then touch to confirm the number offered.

Two touches isn't hands-free.

Receiving a call is completely hands-free.

I use my BT ear piece to receive calls only while driving.

To start a call, I have on a couple of occassions pulled over....then resumed driving once the call is underway, as then I am hands-free through the end of the call.

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#290265 15-Jan-2010 11:25

Ichiu7: You may know this, but others might not: The HTC Magic sold in NZ by Vodafone doesn't include voice dialing. To get it you have to install an alternate ROM. I've been using it on Cyanogen Mod mainly, but it is present in almost all the alternate ROMs that run on the HTC Magic 32B (well over a dozen).

On Android, the voice processing is done in the cloud, so if you don't have an internet connection where you are at the moment with the phone, the voice dialing and voice search functions don't work.

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#290266 15-Jan-2010 11:28

Linuxluver: You can use Voice dialing on almost any of the rooted ROMs. It works very well, *but* needs one touch to start it and, instead of asking for voice confirmation of the requested number, it presents a box on the screen you have to touch....so you CAN voice dial except you need to touch it to start it and then touch to confirm the number offered.

Two touches isn't hands-free.

Receiving a call is completely hands-free.

I use my BT ear piece to receive calls only while driving.

To start a call, I have on a couple of occassions pulled over....then resumed driving once the call is underway, as then I am hands-free through the end of the call.

No matter what, none of this is legal when driving so it's not that useful. It seems an amazing omission that the phone can't do hands free dialling over BT but I understand this is a conscious decision by Google since they feel the voice quality over BT isn't up to the requirements of their voice recognition. Cheaper phones get over this because you actually record the name of the person in the directory so all the phone has to do is match the two sounds, rather than try to voice recognise the name you're saying in the headset and then search the directory to find a match.

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#290267 15-Jan-2010 11:31

lchiu: The police won't know the technical ins and outs. They see the ear piece and assume hands-free. For all practical purposes, it is.

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#290288 15-Jan-2010 12:30

lchiu7:
Linuxluver: You can use Voice dialing on almost any of the rooted ROMs. It works very well, *but* needs one touch to start it and, instead of asking for voice confirmation of the requested number, it presents a box on the screen you have to touch....so you CAN voice dial except you need to touch it to start it and then touch to confirm the number offered.

Two touches isn't hands-free.

Receiving a call is completely hands-free.

I use my BT ear piece to receive calls only while driving.

To start a call, I have on a couple of occassions pulled over....then resumed driving once the call is underway, as then I am hands-free through the end of the call.

No matter what, none of this is legal when driving so it's not that useful. It seems an amazing omission that the phone can't do hands free dialling over BT but I understand this is a conscious decision by Google since they feel the voice quality over BT isn't up to the requirements of their voice recognition. Cheaper phones get over this because you actually record the name of the person in the directory so all the phone has to do is match the two sounds, rather than try to voice recognise the name you're saying in the headset and then search the directory to find a match.

Actually, brief and infrequent touches on the phone are allowed by the new law, if the phone is mounted:

"Mobile phones secured in a cradle can be used to make and receive calls if the driver pushes buttons on the phone only briefly and infrequently.

Entering a full phone number is permitted if the action is brief and infrequent."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10605788&pnum=2

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#290299 15-Jan-2010 13:01

Latest update on my phone....
Into Foreign Customs, January 14, 2010, 2:01 pm, NEW ZEALAND
Into Foreign Customs, January 14, 2010, 10:45 am, NEW ZEALAND
Arrived Abroad, January 14, 2010, 10:38 am, NEW ZEALAND

I'm apparently waiting for contact from customs so that I can pay import tax, wish they would hurry up instead of sending a letter

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#290301 15-Jan-2010 13:11

jamesyb0i: GULP! Latest update on my phone....
Into Foreign Customs, January 14, 2010, 2:01 pm, NEW ZEALAND
Into Foreign Customs, January 14, 2010, 10:45 am, NEW ZEALAND
Arrived Abroad, January 14, 2010, 10:38 am, NEW ZEALAND

I'm sweating bullets hoping this gets through customs without hassel lol

At worst you will have to pay GST since the phone exceeds $700. You might even get off that too but it depends on who the shipper is. If they pass it to Courier Post you will be likely okay. If it's DHL they might charge just to claim the customs agent fees :-)

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#290302 15-Jan-2010 13:11

There's already a Nexus One on trademe for $1500!

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#290329 15-Jan-2010 14:30

Mines just leaving texas :( . Any idea how long it might take to get here?

1/14/2010 6:42 pm Processed at DHL Location. Houston, TX
6:42 pm Departing origin. Houston, TX
4:57 pm Shipment picked up Houston, TX

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#290330 15-Jan-2010 14:32

Mine are finally in Honolulu - off mainland dirt and on their way!! Due here Monday - can't wait!

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#290331 15-Jan-2010 14:34

Hey jamesyb0i and twistadias, are you able to give a final total cost of the phone once all the charges etc have been worked out? Cheers :-)

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#290336 15-Jan-2010 14:49

Foo: Hey jamesyb0i and twistadias, are you able to give a final total cost of the phone once all the charges etc have been worked out? Cheers :-)

Well, as of now I paid US$572.64 to Google including tax.
Shipping came to around US$93 including full insurance from DHL.
And hopefully I won't be charged much by NZ customs.

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#290338 15-Jan-2010 15:02

Well I bought mine when the dollar was 71c and with CA sales tax at 9.5% it came to $801(NZ) credit card bill. The dollar has appreciated a bit since then which helps purchasers now. But I did save on shipping since it was in my pocket on the plane :-)

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