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  Reply # 341473 14-Jun-2010 12:12
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The only thing we know for sure is that between now and the next iphone release you have one Apple option that may or maynot have some firmware upgrade.

And during the year or soo between those too points there will be a number of Android options from most other handset makers. So there will be choices in handset and screen size(which is important for some). And there will be firmware upgrades which will roll through the community.

You pays yer money and you makes your choice........

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  Reply # 341535 14-Jun-2010 14:39
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To me the best thing about the release of the iPhone4 is what developments it will drive in future Android phones.  I think the next 12 months could be pretty exciting on that front (if you like that kind of thing).




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  Reply # 341555 14-Jun-2010 15:28
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Dingbatt: To me the best thing about the release of the iPhone4 is what developments it will drive in future Android phones.  I think the next 12 months could be pretty exciting on that front (if you like that kind of thing).


I agree with you except for the uncertainty around new software upgrades. When you buy an Android phone you just don't know how quickly Google + Vendor + Carrier will make future software upgrades available. I have been burned once on my HTC Magic and I am now much less likely to get another Android even though I am very impressed with most features.

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  Reply # 341603 14-Jun-2010 17:16
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marmel:
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vinnieg:

The only real feature that not many other phones have is the quad band 3g


i'm still surprised at how uncommon this is.  My palm treo 750V has quad band 3g - and its over 3 years old.  Its obviously not a technical limitation....


I think your Palm has quad band GSM, not 3G.

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you're right - it is only tri-band 3G.  still, thats more progressive than the typical dual-band 3G and it means that the phone will work on all of XT, Vodafone and 2Degrees with the exception of the 'extended 3g coverage' on vodafone. 




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  Reply # 341605 14-Jun-2010 17:19
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Linuxluver:
timmyh: 850 + 900 MHz 3G on the same phone is very new and tricky because the bands are so close. I think only perhaps Nokia is also supporting this?

And remember, it is only NZ and Aus where these two bands are actually used side by side. So how much testing will the device vendors have done on this in these two countries?


I think Canada may have some 850/900 UMTS overlap, too. The canadian picture seems to be very confusing. The same telco will use different frequencies in different regions. 


it doesnt matter so much who is using the bands side-by-side... if the US (and AU, NZ) are using 850/2100 and the EU is using 900/2100, then a phone that does either-or is useless for 3G roaming.




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  Reply # 341613 14-Jun-2010 17:35
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Only NZ & Aus have 850/2100 + 900/2100 operating side by side. The US only has 850/1900.

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  Reply # 341644 14-Jun-2010 18:23
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Linuxluver:
timmyh: 850 + 900 MHz 3G on the same phone is very new and tricky because the bands are so close. I think only perhaps Nokia is also supporting this?

And remember, it is only NZ and Aus where these two bands are actually used side by side. So how much testing will the device vendors have done on this in these two countries?


I think Canada may have some 850/900 UMTS overlap, too. The canadian picture seems to be very confusing. The same telco will use different frequencies in different regions. 


it doesnt matter so much who is using the bands side-by-side... if the US (and AU, NZ) are using 850/2100 and the EU is using 900/2100, then a phone that does either-or is useless for 3G roaming.


well that would depend on where you want to roam wouldn't it?

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  Reply # 341654 14-Jun-2010 19:00
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timmyh: Only NZ & Aus have 850/2100 + 900/2100 operating side by side. The US only has 850/1900.


tim


T-Mobile also uses 1700 for 3G in the US..  Looks like they have some 2100 (Wiki)  as well but not using it yet  but I see their new smart fones listed on GSM Arena list them as 3G 1700 and 2100




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  Reply # 341736 14-Jun-2010 22:48
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I got my first Android phone a couple of months ago and love it.  It's the HTC Desire.  
I use Google Apps (at work) and Gmail, and Android is made for these, so if you're also using Google Apps/Gmail you'll set your phone up to sync with the Google cloud in minutes.  I had all 400+ contacts on my phone in minutes, and with HTC Sense and the facebook sync, all my friends photos and other detail got merged with my Google contacts.  It was incredibly easy!
I haven't had an iPhone, so can't compare.  But if you love Google the you'll love Android.

Also check out the Android keynote from Google I/O 2010 on YouTube.  As mentioned by an earlier reply, it's pretty exciting times for Android. I think the next 12-18 months will see massive adoption of Android and possibly (hopefully) overtaking iPhone in terms of market share.

I just love the openness, none of this 'you'll never need flash on mobile', and 'you'll have to use iTunes for everything' crap!  

If you're into reading e-books on a small screen, then maybe the iPhone 4 will be the better choice (although you can of course do that on Android, it won't have an equivalent bookstore for awhile).  
I personally prefer audio books on my Android.

Happy choosing.



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  Reply # 341818 15-Jun-2010 10:09
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timmyh:
Dingbatt: To me the best thing about the release of the iPhone4 is what developments it will drive in future Android phones.  I think the next 12 months could be pretty exciting on that front (if you like that kind of thing).


I agree with you except for the uncertainty around new software upgrades. When you buy an Android phone you just don't know how quickly Google + Vendor + Carrier will make future software upgrades available. I have been burned once on my HTC Magic and I am now much less likely to get another Android even though I am very impressed with most features.


Apparently there will be an Android v2.2 upgrade for the HTC Magic 32b released in the near future. 




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NonprayingMantis:
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Linuxluver:
timmyh: 850 + 900 MHz 3G on the same phone is very new and tricky because the bands are so close. I think only perhaps Nokia is also supporting this?

And remember, it is only NZ and Aus where these two bands are actually used side by side. So how much testing will the device vendors have done on this in these two countries?


I think Canada may have some 850/900 UMTS overlap, too. The canadian picture seems to be very confusing. The same telco will use different frequencies in different regions. 


it doesnt matter so much who is using the bands side-by-side... if the US (and AU, NZ) are using 850/2100 and the EU is using 900/2100, then a phone that does either-or is useless for 3G roaming.


well that would depend on where you want to roam wouldn't it?


+1

Also, GPRS is fine for email and most web browsing.

It's the COST of roaming data that makes all of it effectively un-usable unless you're not just well off, but filthy rich. 




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  Reply # 343122 18-Jun-2010 20:09
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While I do like the premise of the Android platform, it still doesn't seem to have the polish of the iPhone platform quite yet. I changed from a dumb-phone platform to a smartphone platform recently, and chose the HTC Desire as it seemed to have everything I wanted.

However, I ended up selling it about 3 weeks later due to all the little things I noticed about it that I couldn't stand. Firstly, something that I'd do on a regular basis, scrolling through basically anything, swiping through home screens, zooming into websites, rotating from portrait to landscape. These just didn't seem as buttery smooth as they did on iPhone OS (since I own an iPod Touch).

Updating multiple applications was also quite annoying, but at least froyo fixes that. Other niggles such as UI consistency and the terrible built in media player (and the lack of 3rd party players that fit in with the overall system UI) just put me off.

While I love being able to run many recompiled linux applications and the awesome integration with gmail, google calender and maps; the UI in general is what puts me off. Many people might not mind the slight (and I mean VERY slight) jerkiness of the scrolling, zooming etc., it annoys the hell out of me. Even the HTC HD2 running windows mobile seems to do this better.

So overall I'll be selling my iTouch as well and hopefully picking up an iPhone 4 in the near future.

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