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Master Geek
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  Reply # 390153 10-Oct-2010 13:43
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After a bit of searching and reading I have found this post on Vodafone UK Forum (Post #83).

No Rooting etc, you are installing a version between 2.2 and 2.2.1.  It then updates to 2.2.1.  You should then be ready to get 3.0 straight away when as this is a Google version non Vodafone.  However it will be a wait and see to see if 3.0 comes straight down.

NOTE - YOU WILL LOSE PHONE DATA ETC.  So make sure you have Backup turned on for settings etc and backup other thigs like SMS messages if you want those.

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  Reply # 390404 11-Oct-2010 11:40
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Version 2.2 FRF91 I believe came with the first Wifi fix for users with their MAC starting with something other than 00:

There's also an additional fix for more users who are still having issues included in 2.2.1, and many users on the Google Forums thread I'm subscribed to are reporting the 2.2.1 update has fixed where the 2.2 FRF91 didn't.

I also had to reinstall Swype when I went to the CM6 Nightly that was using 2.2.1, and again when I went back to CM6 stable (So I could theme it). No big deal really, just remove it then reinstall with the isntaller which should still be on your device.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 390662 11-Oct-2010 21:31
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I have been looking into this as I really want the 2.2.1 fix because it fixes the WiFi drop out problem apparently.

Like the above I have a phone running the VF Android rather than the Vanilla Android so I have not received the OTA update yet nor can I install it manually as the VF firmware only allows updates to other VF firmware.

I know I have a VF firmware rather than the Vanilla firmware by doing the following:
* When on the home screen press the magnifying glass search button
* Search the web for something
* Look at the URL
* In my case I get http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=nz&client=ms-android-vf-nz&source=android-launcher-search&q=a
* The client clearly says its VF NZ Android build rather than a vanilla android build. The "ms-android-vf-nz" is the give away

I get this client when using no sim or a 2 Degrees SIM so it is clearly the firmware rather than the SIM card giving this value. This along with what I have read on this thread, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Nexus_One#Worldwide and post 19 on http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/75512-google-nexus-one-release-android-221/?s=9e9a01b9317eca6b627b4ec77aed8db7 .

Thus because it is running VF's hacked Android rather than Vanilla Android I can not get the 2.2.1 update until VF get around to approving it and pushing it out. If I had Vanilla firmware I would already have the update or at least be able to do *#*#checkin#*#* to get it to check and so me the update prompt.

I personally don't think it should be up to VF to approve updates it is like your ISP telling no you can't install this month's Windows Updates which I personally think is negligent on VF's behave. There may be security patches included and we are sitting there with unpatched holes which have known fixes.

They say in the VF UK Forum that they need to test the network compatibility umm... I understand iPhones get their updates when Apple releases them why do Androids get treated differently? Also what about phones not on VF's network why should those users have to wait for testing that has no benefit for them as they are on a different network?

I have asked VF if they will unlock my Nexus and install Vanilla Firmware on it and they have said no. Sure not as bad as SIM Locking but my phone is still locked/controlled by some extent by VF and they will not remove this and install Vanilla Android on it. So they are not fully following the sprit the Commerce Commissions thou shall not lock phones ruling. Which was really to give the customer full control over there phone and have no control place on the phone from the cell companies.

I picked the Nexus as it was my understanding that it was the most Vanilla Android phone out there and thus the most open without customer UIs and the like. Which seeing it has the VF Firmware on it it is not as open as I thought it was. I got a Nexus because I had heard horror stories about phone manufacturers being really slow to put out updates. No where on the Nexus product page does it say that it is running a VF hacked version of Android it just says "Nexus One is the first Smartphone in New Zealand to use the Google Android 2.1 operating system" (http://www.vodafone.co.nz/shop/mobileDetails.jsp?skuId=sku8540042&voucherCode=&selectionKey=mobile&menuKey=mnit2400019) I feel I rightly assume this meant it was Vanilla Android as it said nothing about VF addons to Android or custom UIs. So I feel this page mislead me about phone and is not 100% truthful or accurate.

So if you like are frustrated about not getting this 2.2.1 update and I am also expecting delays on Android 3 as well now because of this and that I brought my phone assuming that I would get Android 3 on day one. I have written to the Commerce Commission stating that VF are locking the phones and what they are doing is not in the spirit of the thou shall not lock phones ruling. I also have written to the Advertising Standards Authority for being mislead about the true operating system the phone is running. Please see my letters below and if you feel the same way please feel free to use them are a basis for your own complaints.

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Commerce Commission:
http://www.comcom.govt.nz/online-complaint-form/

Vodafone locking phones.

A couple of years ago you had a ruling saying that Cell Phone
Companies could not lock phones to their network. Vodafone has locked
the Google Nexus One phone. It is not "SIM Locked" which is what the
ruling covers but the locking does not meet the spirit of the ruling.
The Nexus One phones ship with a VF customised version of the Android
Operating System. The VF customised means that VF gets to control when
and if Android Operating System updates are allowed on the phone. This
approval is controlled by VF global and their reasoning is that they
want to network updates before they are released to phone. Google has
released the 2.2.1 update to the Nexus One yet VF is yet to release it
to phones locked to them. VF is currently unable to provide a timeline
for when the update will be released nor will they unlock my phone
from VF control to receive the update directly from Google.

Because of VF locking my phone I maybe exposed to security holes which
have a fix available. Not releasing updates as soon as they are
available is boarding on negligence as they are knowingly and willing
exposing end users to security holes for which an update is available
for.

Also people no non VF network will get no benefits from VF network
testing of the update as they are not on a VF network.

And no where does VF actually say that they control the update process
and that you won't get Android updates as soon as the new versions of
Androids are released.

This the phone is not fully unlocked from VF's control, my
understanding of your ruling which stated that Cell Phone companies
could not lock phones to their network and must unlock any phones
which they have locked. This phone is locked and I have asked VF to
unlock and they have not unlocked it for me.

The outcome I would like to see is for VF to unlock the Nexus One
phone fully from their control of updates, so the phone can receive
updates from the Upstream Operating System Provider as soon as it is
released.

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Advertising Standards Authority:
http://www.asa.co.nz/complaint_form.php

Vodafone not stating fully what operating system a phone runs.

The product page for the Nexus One phone
(http://www.vodafone.co.nz/shop/mobileDetails.jsp?skuId=sku8540042&voucherCode=&selectionKey=mobile&menuKey=mnit2400019)
states "Google Android 2.1 operating system". This is not 100%
correct. It does indeed run Android but the Android Operating System
comes modified by Vodafone NZ to lock the phone to Vodafone.

What does locking mean in this instance?
It means that Vodafone NZ (though from what I can gather VF UK/Global
do the testing) controls when the updates are released to the phone.
Currently VF has approved up to Android  2.2 for the Nexus One phone.
Google has released Android 2.2.1 for the Nexus One and I have read
about the 2.2.1 update online (and there is one fix I really want in
it). Yet phones which are locked by VF NZ are unable to receive this
update even though Google and other news sources are saying that 2.2.1
is released and that phones should automatically update.

Vodafone are not fully informing the customer about the operating
system that is running on the phone. I brought this phone assuming
that I would get updates as soon as Google released updates to
Android, not after an undefined time when VF feels like it. There is
no where that it says that I have to wait for VF to release/approve
the updates and that Android Operating system installed on the phone
is customised by Vodafone and that Vodafone controls when and what you
can receive updates in the way of updates.

Outcomes:
Either:
* VF unlocks all phones to receive updates as soon as the hardware
manufacture and/or operating system company releases an update.
* VF clearly states on their site and other advertising material that
phones run a VF customised version of the operating system and that
they control when updates are released and that users maybe exposed
security holes for an indefinite amount of time after the a fix has
been released and virus writers are exploiting these flaws. Also give
a full no questions asked refund and no termination fees to anyone who
has brought a locked phone.

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