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  Reply # 511515 24-Aug-2011 22:03
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macuser: Patents do make sense, Trademarks also make sense! Some patent hoarders don't.

Imagine if you were in a business where you sold a product, that looked and functioned a way that no other product does, which attracted customers because they specifically sort out your product as they hear it works great!

And then another manufacturer comes along selling a product on the virtue that it's just like yours, it looks like yours, works like yours meaning that the customer that once recognizes your product for it's specific traits is now confused!  Not good.  

It would piss me off if someone copied all my photographs, inspiration is fine, I'm inspired by other photographers work, but I try not to copy it.  

Bringing google up, they're a cool company, but they're inherently not creative, it's a company of software engineers, there isn't a lot of taste involved.  Mircrosoft is filling itself with those who have taste, and it's nice, Windows Phone 7 is beautiful!

Moral of my story is that I believe that companies have a right to defend their trademarks and IP if it makes their product unique, but I think IP that doesn't go far enough to make their product individual shouldn't stand up in court.


This whole argument over the patents is a bit silly. You can have a phone or tablet that looks good, has a nice UI by making one. WP7 is an example as are Android phones that aren't made to look like an iPhone, apart from the UI. If you make a car that in outward appearances (Form factor) looks like a 2008 Corona, and inside it does too (UI) then what do you expect??  Make a nice looking car, with a nice inside and take on the competition, thats what I say.

What would I know, I'm an iPhone user and according to the Android guys its coz Im too simple, so that's why I have one, :-)    I did get a kick out of a thread saying iTunes is too hard to use, so he said to use Windows Explorer, or an alternative which looked like iTunes, just more basic. But I digress!

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  Reply # 511560 25-Aug-2011 07:17
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Wow. So the Dutch court has granted Apple injunction against Samsung. This is big, not just for Samsung but for other Android OEM's as well.

Do whatever you want to do man.



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  Reply # 511568 25-Aug-2011 07:36
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They just now need to focus on making a Samsung device , not a lookalike.


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  Reply # 511946 25-Aug-2011 16:40
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Actually if you read the details it looks like a win for Samsung. The only thing they upheld is something in the way the photo gallery works - a feature Samsung can basically remove with a new version of the firmware (which I imagine they already have prepared just in case). It also only applies to Gingerbread (maybe Froyo) but not Honeycomb. So no restrictions on the Galaxy Tabs. I imagine Samsung will be working flat out to update firmware on devices for sale by October when the restrictions become effective; so possibly not even any impact on sales.

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  Reply # 511966 25-Aug-2011 17:09

billgates: Wow. So the Dutch court has granted Apple injunction against Samsung. This is big, not just for Samsung but for other Android OEM's as well.

You had me worried there... Nothing to see here, step aside. 

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  Reply # 511979 25-Aug-2011 17:29
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I think this part is my favourite:

[UPDATE: Here's the upshot now the ruling has been published via Jan Wilderboer:

- Samsung can continue to sell current Galaxy phones and must provide a trivial change to the picture gallery in the next 7 weeks.
- Samsung can continue to sell the Galaxy Tab.
- Apple has LOST all design and copyright related claims.
- Apple has LOST the infringement claim on one patent and the court deemed a third patent broken anyway.]

I have moved across the ditch.  Now residing in Melbourne as a VOIP/Video Technical Trainer/Engineer. 

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  Reply # 512157 25-Aug-2011 22:22
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Whilst I'm supportive of the need for Patents and for the protection of IP, some of these companies need to be careful not to push this whole thing too far......

Why? Generally the whole Intellectual property,Patenting, and registering of proprietary designs is a Western concept. The next millennia is going to be driven by the emerging Eastern markets and manufacturers (China/India), who ultimately don't give a curried won-ton about applying for and paying royalties to some oligopoly franchise holder.

And it won't be too long before they're the innovators rather than the imitators... But then Apple know this, which is I suspect why they're pushing hard to keep the Barn door locked whilst they get as much out of their cash cow as they can before it breaks free...

Kiwifruit anyone????

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