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stevenz
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  #481756 16-Jun-2011 10:26
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Wade:
Debin: Hey guys,

Did anyone who bought their S2 through vodafone/JB hifi/local source get a SD card in the box?  


No SD card with mine (JB Hifi New Lynn) but di get a $50 JB card, niiiice!!


The SGS2 doesn't come with an SD card due to the fact it's already got "16GB" built-in. (About 12 of which is available for storage). They're so cheap now that it doesn't really matter much anyway :)




 
 
 

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  #481772 16-Jun-2011 10:55
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stevenz:
Wade:
Debin: Hey guys,

Did anyone who bought their S2 through vodafone/JB hifi/local source get a SD card in the box?  


No SD card with mine (JB Hifi New Lynn) but di get a $50 JB card, niiiice!!


The SGS2 doesn't come with an SD card due to the fact it's already got "16GB" built-in. (About 12 of which is available for storage). They're so cheap now that it doesn't really matter much anyway :)


Very true - the 16Gb class 6 A-Data card i bought in early November last year for $85 I just re-bought for the SGS2 for $40-odd.

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  #481782 16-Jun-2011 11:19
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Very true - the 16Gb class 6 A-Data card i bought in early November last year for $85 I just re-bought for the SGS2 for $40-odd.


Got my 16GB MicroSD at Best Buy in Seattle for US$19 when I bought my spare battery. Dunno if Lexar is a reputable brand, but at that price, who cares? Should've bought 2.




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  #481796 16-Jun-2011 11:42
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ArtooDetoo:
nofam:

Very true - the 16Gb class 6 A-Data card i bought in early November last year for $85 I just re-bought for the SGS2 for $40-odd.


Got my 16GB MicroSD at Best Buy in Seattle for US$19 when I bought my spare battery. Dunno if Lexar is a reputable brand, but at that price, who cares? Should've bought 2.


I have a 32GB Class 4 Lexar card in my SGSII that I bought from PB Technologies in Queen St, Auck, for $102 a couple of weeks ago. Works fine.




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  #481797 16-Jun-2011 11:46
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eracode:
ArtooDetoo:
nofam:

Very true - the 16Gb class 6 A-Data card i bought in early November last year for $85 I just re-bought for the SGS2 for $40-odd.


Got my 16GB MicroSD at Best Buy in Seattle for US$19 when I bought my spare battery. Dunno if Lexar is a reputable brand, but at that price, who cares? Should've bought 2.


I have a 32GB Class 4 Lexar card in my SGSII that I bought from PB Technologies in Queen St, Auck, for $102 a couple of weeks ago. Works fine.


Nothing wrong with Lexar.

Hmm, can I justify $102.... :)




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  #481801 16-Jun-2011 12:04
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kiwitrc: Excellent write up NZtechfreak. Dont forget to pick up that watering can on the lawn before you next mow.


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  #481815 16-Jun-2011 12:36
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Just got my 32Gb C10 off ebay for $119NZ.




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  #481826 16-Jun-2011 12:56
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old3eyes: You were robbed

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MEMAPC78019&name=Apacer-32GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-Class-4-w-SD-Adap...


Class 4 vs class 10, you pay more for a class 10 (assuming it is a class 10)

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  #481827 16-Jun-2011 12:57
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I was under the impression that 32gb micro SD only went up a class 6 at this point in time, mind it's a moot point as there seems to be very little real world difference according to some

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  #481831 16-Jun-2011 13:05
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old3eyes: You were robbed

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MEMAPC78019&name=Apacer-32GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-Class-4-w-SD-Adap...


Not at all, I always go for top spec in tech purchases.




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  #481835 16-Jun-2011 13:13
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Wade: I was under the impression that 32gb micro SD only went up a class 6 at this point in time, mind it's a moot point as there seems to be very little real world difference according to some


Exactly - the law of diminishing returns for sure. . . . .But I don't think you'd want a class 2 card if you were planning on putting a lot of apps on it that did considerable I/O

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  #481874 16-Jun-2011 14:26
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"Class" specs aren't terribly equal, some manufacturers aren't exactly, shall we say, "honest" with their spec claims. In theory the class number is supposed to be the MB/Sec that is the _minimum_ sustained transfer rate the card is capable of, this is usually measured as read-speed which is always faster than write-speed.

At least, that's my understanding, feel free to correct me.

The USB interface of most mobile devices isn't fast enough to benefit much from the higher-end cards anyway. It pays to check reviews with benchmarks if you're worried about such things.




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  #481890 16-Jun-2011 14:50
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stevenz: "Class" specs aren't terribly equal, some manufacturers aren't exactly, shall we say, "honest" with their spec claims. In theory the class number is supposed to be the MB/Sec that is the _minimum_ sustained transfer rate the card is capable of, this is usually measured as read-speed which is always faster than write-speed.

At least, that's my understanding, feel free to correct me.

The USB interface of most mobile devices isn't fast enough to benefit much from the higher-end cards anyway. It pays to check reviews with benchmarks if you're worried about such things.


Turns out it's "measured" as write-speed, not read-speed as it turns out, oops.




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  #481905 16-Jun-2011 15:23
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stevenz: "Class" specs aren't terribly equal, some manufacturers aren't exactly, shall we say, "honest" with their spec claims. In theory the class number is supposed to be the MB/Sec that is the _minimum_ sustained transfer rate the card is capable of, this is usually measured as read-speed which is always faster than write-speed.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about SD card class ratings:

The Speed Class Rating is the official unit of speed measurement for SD Cards, defined by the SD Association. The Class number represents a multiple of 8 Mbits/s (1 MB/s), and meets the least sustained write speeds for a card in a fragmented state.
These are the ratings of all currently available cards:

Class | Speed
Class 2 | 2 MB/s
Class 4 | 4 MB/s
Class 6 | 6 MB/s
Class 10 | 10 MB/s

Even though the class ratings are defined by a governing body, like "×" speed ratings, class speed ratings are quoted by the manufacturers and not verified by any independent evaluation process. In applications that require sustained write throughput, such as video recording, the device may not perform satisfactorily if the SD card's class rating falls below a particular speed. For example, a camcorder that is designed to record to class 6 media may suffer dropouts or corrupted video on slower media. On slower class cards, digital cameras may experience a lag of several seconds between photo-taking, while the camera writes the picture to the card.

Note the bit I've made bold + italic in the last paragraph. The more expensive brands (Sandisk, Lexar, Kingston, etc) tend to produce cards that follow the rating system, and usually provide a lot better speeds than their class rating would suggest. The cheaper brands tend to cheat and report class ratings that are higher than they should be.

For example, a cheap SD card maker might label a card as Class 6, but it only gets 6MB/s sustained writes on an empty card. Or it might get an average 7MB/s write speed over the course of several seconds, but with instantaneous speeds as low as 3MB/s.

In my experience you're better off buying a slightly lower class card from a more expensive manufacturer. Not only is the speed class more likely to be accurate, you're also less likely to get a dud card.

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