NZtechfreak: Quite a giggle the suggestion that Samsung are going to drop the OS that made them the top manufacturer, or that HTC are going to drop the OS that brought them into the big time.
samsung are getting hit hard by apple right now, google purchasing motorola probably isnt going to affect that suit at all. The question becomes, how deep are samsungs pockets? They've already had to pull their galaxy tabletsfrom the EU market, how long before they have to pull tabs and phones from other markets? They were also getting hit up for royalties by Microsoft - royalties which HTC are already paying.
I'm seeing this turning into a Google vs Applesoft patent war, and i bet vendors will start to pick sides.
I'm wondering if we will see Google putting a dock connector on their phones to compete against the Apple dock? Now the software and hardware manufacturer have the clout and size... it would make sense to try and get a click of the 'Made for Motorola Android' ticket.
So you can visualize how absurd the US patent system is...
However that's old (oct 2010) when you add in lawsuits from companies that are basically patent trolls and don't actually make anything you get something like this
Here I was hoping that a new, quite powerful tech company, without a decent patent pool will start lobbying against these BS patents, but no, they joined them.
So a little group of elite companies will have cross licensing deals with each other and sue or acquire all new start ups. Brave new world.
Google would have been strong enough to actually fight a lot of these patent claims, but now they need to protect their own IP.
This is the most interesting development in the tech enterprise for ages.
There is a lot of really good analysis over at The Register, by the way although I might point people to El Reg I don't get a cut from it.
Some of the points they make are that:
Motorola's IP war chest does not help Google here. It is poor where it needs to be rich. It is no help at all in the Oracle battle, which (alas) as many people have forgotten today, is largely about copyrights not patents.
These radio and design patents of legacy manufacturers such as Motorola or Nokia really aren't worth quite as much as their owners think they are.
And that:
Google didn't take IP seriously, bidding silly numbers (such as pi billion dollars) for the Nortel patents.
I personally think that maybe, maybe, we will see a move to integrated world where hardware makers and software makers are either the same company like Apple or have 'special relationship' such as Nokia / MS.
Google goes on about how 'open' Android is but it's all rubbish. Google picks one maker and they get preferential treatment by getting early access and therefore an inside track. Guess who is on the inside track now?
What will is mean for us consumers?
Well, I think this will actually weaken Android as hardware makers would be stupid not to look at 'other options', such as WP7 or Bada if you'er Samsung.
But I'm not buying a tablet until Windows get serious and put something in the market. I think that just got a step closer with this deal.
Having said all that, I'm just another dude trying to read the tea leaves. Anybody claiming to do more than that is definitely breaking a non-disclosure agreement.
ntsan: Why would they go for WP7 as Nokia get preferred treatment from Microsoft?
I think a large part of how this will all work out depends on something only a very few people actually know:
How will the 'special relationships' between hardware makers and software makers actually work?
Before the Nokia/MS deal or Google buying Motorola Mobility you could reasonably easily say there were hardware companies which did software in house, such as Nokia/Symbian, Apple/iOS, etc, and there were companies which used Android, and to a much lesser extent WP7.
Android and WP7 were accessible enough to all parties, with some inconsistency, for a number of hardware makers to used happily rather than going to the trouble of building their own OS.
Now we don't know what special position Nokia and Motorola will be in with regard to the software as all the official talk has been intentionally vague. This is probably one of the most confidential pieces of information in the phone industry at present.
My contention is that if I were a software maker using Android or WP7 and I wasn't Motorola or Nokia I would want a 'plan B'. Anything else would leave me very vulnerable.
So if I currently only made Android phones I would look to WP7 (as far as I know everybody making WP7 phones currently also makes Android phones, except Nokia of course) in the short term and consider an in house OS for a long term possibility. This looks very similar to what Samsung are doing with Bada and their diverse strategy, nobody calls those dudes fools.
NZtechfreak: Quite a giggle the suggestion that Samsung are going to drop the OS that made them the top manufacturer, or that HTC are going to drop the OS that brought them into the big time.
samsung are getting hit hard by apple right now, google purchasing motorola probably isnt going to affect that suit at all. The question becomes, how deep are samsungs pockets? They've already had to pull their galaxy tabletsfrom the EU market, how long before they have to pull tabs and phones from other markets?
The Apple / Samsung legal battles rages on with the news that Apple is now seeking a complete ban on the entire Galaxy range; smartphones, tablets and all, including the Samsung Galaxy Ace, Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, original Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
NZtechfreak: Quite a giggle the suggestion that Samsung are going to drop the OS that made them the top manufacturer, or that HTC are going to drop the OS that brought them into the big time.?
samsung are getting hit hard by apple right now, google purchasing motorola probably isnt going to affect that suit?at all.? The question becomes, how deep are samsungs pockets?? They've already had to pull their galaxy?tabletsfrom the EU market, how long before they have to pull tabs and phones from other markets??
The Apple / Samsung legal battles rages on with the news that Apple is now seeking a complete ban on the entire Galaxy range; smartphones, tablets and all, including the Samsung Galaxy Ace, Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, original Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
i'm sure samsung arent giggling about that...???
I bet the Apple lawyers are. If Crapple was able to pull this off there would be a fair amount of backlash from the non Apple fan out there..
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