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Topic # 98129 24-Feb-2012 13:26 Send private message

When you buy a new home or rental property does the law require you to redirect mail received for earlier owners/tenants?

I hardly send snail mail these days but receive mail for others who lived at my address recently or even several years ago. I don't mind forwarding on the odd letter saying "Not at this address" but when there is mail almost every day what must one do with it all?

When the previous tenants have left no forwarding address, perhaps because they want their privacy, can I bin it, must I hang on to it for ever, or am obliged to redirect it either to the letting agency that rented out the property, or write "No forwarding address" or "Owner no longer at this address - Return Sender" or some such and make a unplanned trip to a Post Box to send it on.

If I have to forward/redirect mail, how many weeks, months, or years am I required by law (if any) to do this? Do I need to forward it within a fixed number of days of receiving it or perhaps once a month?

Others must have this hassle too. I presume it would be illegal to open it even if there is no return address on the outside of the letter and perhaps also illegal just to throw it away.

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  Reply # 586230 24-Feb-2012 13:37 Send private message

geek4me: When you buy a new home or rental property does the law require you to redirect mail received for earlier owners/tenants?

I hardly send snail mail these days but receive mail for others who lived at my address recently or even several years ago. I don't mind forwarding on the odd letter saying "Not at this address" but when there is mail almost every day what must one do with it all?

When the previous tenants have left no forwarding address, perhaps because they want their privacy, can I bin it, must I hang on to it for ever, or am obliged to redirect it either to the letting agency that rented out the property, or write "No forwarding address" or "Owner no longer at this address - Return Sender" or some such and make a unplanned trip to a Post Box to send it on.

If I have to forward/redirect mail, how many weeks, months, or years am I required by law (if any) to do this? Do I need to forward it within a fixed number of days of receiving it or perhaps once a month?

Others must have this hassle too. I presume it would be illegal to open it even if there is no return address on the outside of the letter and perhaps also illegal just to throw it away.


Dustbin or just return to sender. Dont think there are any rules around it.



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  Reply # 586231 24-Feb-2012 13:42 Send private message

When I moved into our current flat the landlord said the previous tenant had asked if I could forward all their mail to an address he gave me, I said "sure I will"

I just let their mail collect, then either bin it or return to sender it depending on how I feel.

If they're too cheap/lazy to sort a redirect out with NZ Post why should I help them

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  Reply # 586232 24-Feb-2012 13:45 Send private message

defnz: When I moved into our current flat the landlord said the previous tenant had asked if I could forward all their mail to an address he gave me, I said "sure I will"

I just let their mail collect, then either bin it or return to sender it depending on how I feel.

If they're too cheap/lazy to sort a redirect out with NZ Post why should I help them


Because you gave your word that you would?

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  Reply # 586235 24-Feb-2012 13:46 Send private message

defnz: When I moved into our current flat the landlord said the previous tenant had asked if I could forward all their mail to an address he gave me, I said "sure I will"

I just let their mail collect, then either bin it or return to sender it depending on how I feel.

If they're too cheap/lazy to sort a redirect out with NZ Post why should I help them


WOW.
Maybe it would have been nicer to just let them know you not prepared to forward. But why say you will help, and then go and do something else.

When we moved house we had a redirect, and NZ Post still missed a couple of things. It was nice that the new tenants kept our mail and rang me up to say that they have my popular mechanics magazines.

I bin the stuff that keeps coming, even after I have already returned to sender.

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  Reply # 586236 24-Feb-2012 13:48 Send private message

You might want to check out the Postal Services Act 1998. You may find that there are obligations on you. Or not.

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  Reply # 586237 24-Feb-2012 13:48 Send private message

Edit:  Just found this...

Obligation to pass on postal articles
  • (1) Subject to sections 5 to 11 and to sections 16 and 17, where a postal article that has not been delivered comes into the possession of a person other than the addressee, that person must deliver it to—
    • (a) the addressee; or
    • (b) any postal operator.
    (2) Every person commits an offence against this Act who, without reasonable excuse, fails to comply with this section.


Taking my 'moral' pedestal we dealt with any mail from the former residents in our current house as best we could for 12 months. We had a temporary new address for them so mail was easily redirected (they asked nicely) but we then heard they shifted we started returning to sender where possible. But honestly after 12 months everything went into the bin (except the nice magazine subscription...thanks!) It seemed to be the same companies or people all the time.

I figured if the old owners couldn't sort out their affairs in 12 months, or the people we kept returning the mail to couldn't wake up to the fact they no longer lived there (I even rang 2 of them including the magazine people), then tough luck. Enough was enough!




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  Reply # 586239 24-Feb-2012 13:55

You should not
a. Open the mail
b. Bin it

The best option is to return it to sender and write "RTS- Addressee no longer lives here" or what I used to put "RTS - Addressee Deceased" That soon stopped the sender...




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  Reply # 586243 24-Feb-2012 13:57 Send private message

Interesting, I've already RTS'd a lot of stuff so its slowed down thankfully

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  Reply # 586244 24-Feb-2012 13:59 Send private message

I bought a house about 6 months ago. For the first 3 months I dropped the previous owners mail off at their new address they left me with when they moved. After that I've been binning it. I still look though. If it seems important I would probably make make effort.

I paid for NZ Post to redirect my mail why shouldn't they. 

Edit. looks like I have been breaking the law. shame on me. I will be RTS in future.

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  Reply # 586247 24-Feb-2012 13:59 Send private message

We just moved into a new place, the previous tenants apparently made no attempt to redirect any of their mail and had the cheek to leave a note in the mailbox asking us to redirect it for them. As they were a couple of mid-20's females, it means there's virtually daily mail from various hairdressers, cosmetics companies and clothing stores. This includes things like mail from the LTSA who you'd think would be an important outfit to notify.

I've always made an effort to have all my mail redirected, either by informing companies directly, by informing them via the NZ Post service, or by actually paying to set up a redirect, so I'm loath to redirect mail for people too lazy and/or cheap to arrange it themselves.

Then of course you get the companies who refuse to acknowledge mail returned to them with "No such person" and keep sending things year after year.

I wouldn't mind so much if there was a convenient postbox to shove their mail into, but it means I've got to make a special trip down to the post office to do it - admittedly it's only 3 blocks away from the office, but it's the principal.





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  Reply # 586248 24-Feb-2012 14:01 Send private message

stevenz: I've always made an effort to have all my mail redirected, either by informing companies directly, by informing them via the NZ Post service, or by actually paying to set up a redirect, so I'm loath to redirect mail for people too lazy and/or cheap to arrange it themselves.


My thoughts exactly 

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  Reply # 586252 24-Feb-2012 14:05 Send private message

Here is the pricing. 

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  Reply # 586253 24-Feb-2012 14:05 Send private message

We're still getting mail for the old owners of our place and theyve been gone for almost a year now - weve just been throwing it back in the post box with "RTS".

Our previous property, we were getting mail 5 yrs later for the owners before us, inc GE Finance stuff - even rung GE and said "they havent been here for years" - they obviously didnt give a hoot and kept sending letters....




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  Reply # 586267 24-Feb-2012 14:23 Send private message

I've been in the situation where was getting heaps of mail from previous occupant.

I forwarded it for a couple of months (only posting it when convenient to me), then forward with a note in CAPS asking them to change their address, then if more came in it was Return To Sender for another couple of months. After that it was just binned. I figured 6 months was more than enough time for them to get their sh.. act together!

And defnz, if you said you would forward it, then you should forward it otherwise you're being dishonest! At the very least you should collect it and give it to the landlord.

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  Reply # 586270 24-Feb-2012 14:24 Send private message

xpd: We're still getting mail for the old owners of our place and theyve been gone for almost a year now - weve just been throwing it back in the post box with "RTS".

Our previous property, we were getting mail 5 yrs later for the owners before us, inc GE Finance stuff - even rung GE and said "they havent been here for years" - they obviously didnt give a hoot and kept sending letters....


Yeah - found that some companies won't stop it unless you are the person it is addressed to!! Oh Yay - it got binned after that.

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