Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | ... | 19
200 posts

Master Geek


  Reply # 641755 16-Jun-2012 12:10 Send private message

As Napster said, You are best to remove everything as much as possible and just run on jackpoint. 

My setup was like that to start with and I was loosing 20mbit sync by having all the other jackpoints connected so go figure :P

1216 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 117

Trusted

  Reply # 641757 16-Jun-2012 12:18 Send private message

Weird! You'd think since they are 'open circuit' that it would make no difference! May be the master jack has some closed circuitry on the line by default?

So, short of actually physically running new wires to the ADSL jack, is there any other way to isolate it?

214 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


  Reply # 641762 16-Jun-2012 12:40 Send private message

McGee: As Napster said, You are best to remove everything as much as possible and just run on jackpoint. 

My setup was like that to start with and I was loosing 20mbit sync by having all the other jackpoints connected so go figure :P


think of it like water going through pipes if all pipes are connected water flows through all of them making the flow less where you want it.

having a direct pipe and flow you have maximum amount of water, not at a loss.

1458 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 91

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 641765 16-Jun-2012 12:47 Send private message

Its the 'stub' effect, wherby the signal comes into your modem, but also heads down the line to the other jackpoints in your house, then gets bounced back down the line and picked up by your modem again, 'confusing' your modem. (obviously a massive simplification)

Check out this thread, it covers all of these wiring/line issues, why splitters are awesome, as well as how-tos on installing splitters
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=96226&page_no=1

1216 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 117

Trusted

  Reply # 641766 16-Jun-2012 12:54 Send private message

So if I install a splitter I'd still have to run a new set of wires to the ADSL jack right?

214 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


  Reply # 641771 16-Jun-2012 13:01 Send private message

SamF: So if I install a splitter I'd still have to run a new set of wires to the ADSL jack right?


you should have 2 pairs of wires.

normally you use a single pair so no you wont have to run a new cable.

1216 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 117

Trusted

  Reply # 641773 16-Jun-2012 13:03 Send private message

Won't both pairs already be connected to all jacks in the house tho?

200 posts

Master Geek


  Reply # 641774 16-Jun-2012 13:04 Send private message

SamF: So if I install a splitter I'd still have to run a new set of wires to the ADSL jack right?




If you're going naked just find where the master jack or termination demarc is chop it off there then get some cat5e / 6 if you're really fussy and join onto the main feed. 
Then stick a RJ11 / RJ45 on the other end and you're away laughing. 

5428 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 227

Subscriber

  Reply # 641781 16-Jun-2012 13:30 Send private message

RalphFromSnap:

Additional Terms and Conditions apply
  • VDSL Upgrade fee
    - $25 including GST for @Home plans (Total $25.00)
    - $25 excluding GST for @Work plans (Total $28.75)
  • Contract term is 24 months; an early termination fee of $150 will apply if connection is discontinued at any point prior to 24 months.
  • Wiring may be required; additional charges will apply and will be advised on application.
  • Normal Snap Terms and Conditions apply.


Shouldn't  the ETF be based on the percentage of months remaining.  Say I go to 21 months I would be pissed at having to pay $150  as I as near the end of my contract.. 




Regards,

Old3eyes

11106 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 530

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 641793 16-Jun-2012 13:55 Send private message

old3eyes: \

Shouldn't  the ETF be based on the percentage of months remaining.  Say I go to 21 months I would be pissed at having to pay $150  as I as near the end of my contract.. 


Dont know of any other ISPs prorating it, and even at the $150 thats more than covered the router discount.




Richard rich.ms

19751 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1496

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 642012 17-Jun-2012 09:44 Send private message

At the end of the day VDSL2 reguires a master filter. End of story. It doesn't matter whether you have a naked or clothed connection. Even a naked connection with no POTS won't overcome the reflections on the line caused by multiple jackpoints which will affect your sync speed.

The only exception to this is if you're wiring your modem into a single jackpoint at the demarc and eliminate all other wiring.

IMHO any ISP that's selling VDSL2 without making this very clear to customers and only allowing a full install is going to face massive support issues, it's not a path I would want to be going down.


11106 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 530

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 642108 17-Jun-2012 14:33 Send private message

Guy asked about number of jacks when I called to get it underway




Richard rich.ms

1671 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 168


  Reply # 642389 18-Jun-2012 10:19 Send private message

ok just found out what the wiring charge is for , its not for a splitter, its to put a new phone line in running just vdsl and the other line for the phone. Chorus turned up this morning and told me he was here to install new line and broadband, news to me as i told him i thought it was a splitter he was installing to get vdsl. News to him because he told me you dont need a splitter for what he was going to do. So he left because he didnt have an order to do a splitter and i rang Snap to find out what happened. According to Snap the chorus guy was correct and this is what the $400 covers, a new phone line. so it looks like the first guy i spoke to didnt quite know what the fee covered and got everyone confused. so now i have to wait for chorus to get back to me.

19751 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1496

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 642416 18-Jun-2012 10:59 Send private message

vexxxboy: ok just found out what the wiring charge is for , its not for a splitter, its to put a new phone line in running just vdsl and the other line for the phone. Chorus turned up this morning and told me he was here to install new line and broadband, news to me as i told him i thought it was a splitter he was installing to get vdsl. News to him because he told me you dont need a splitter for what he was going to do. So he left because he didnt have an order to do a splitter and i rang Snap to find out what happened. According to Snap the chorus guy was correct and this is what the $400 covers, a new phone line. so it looks like the first guy i spoke to didnt quite know what the fee covered and got everyone confused. so now i have to wait for chorus to get back to me.


Aren't Snap only doing Naked VDSL2? If so this is perfectly normal as they'll need to provision a new connection on a 2nd pair into your home complete with new jackpoint. Simply installing a master filter isn't going to do anything.



1216 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 117

Trusted

  Reply # 642470 18-Jun-2012 12:29 Send private message

sbiddle:Aren't Snap only doing Naked VDSL2? If so this is perfectly normal as they'll need to provision a new connection on a 2nd pair into your home complete with new jackpoint. Simply installing a master filter isn't going to do anything.


But wait... but didn't you say:

sbiddle: At the end of the day VDSL2 reguires a master filter. End of story. It doesn't matter whether you have a naked or clothed connection.


Am I missing something?  I'm confused! :/  Isn't the point of a splitter to avoid having to install a new physical line?

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | ... | 19
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





Trending now »

Hot discussions in our forums right now:

American legal jurisdiction in New Zealand
Created by ajobbins, last reply by ajobbins on 20-Oct-2014 22:53 (22 replies)
Pages... 2


Another Trade Me competitor: SellShed
Created by freitasm, last reply by mattwnz on 20-Oct-2014 15:16 (22 replies)
Pages... 2


Why would Suresignal calls be worse quality than non-Suresignal calls from the same location?
Created by Geektastic, last reply by gzt on 20-Oct-2014 23:43 (39 replies)
Pages... 2 3


Picture resizing on the forum
Created by Jase2985, last reply by freitasm on 18-Oct-2014 13:32 (13 replies)

Internet question...
Created by Geektastic, last reply by Geektastic on 17-Oct-2014 22:59 (40 replies)
Pages... 2 3


Why do people keep thinking National are doing a great job?
Created by sxz, last reply by Geektastic on 20-Oct-2014 23:05 (156 replies)
Pages... 9 10 11


Just bought a TiVo online. No wireless adaptor. Will a standard one work? Or do I need the TiVo one ?
Created by Limerick, last reply by graemeh on 20-Oct-2014 16:03 (11 replies)

iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3. Gonna get one?
Created by Dingbatt, last reply by alexx on 20-Oct-2014 13:34 (45 replies)
Pages... 2 3



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.