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  Reply # 673247 16-Aug-2012 12:07 Send private message

sbiddle:Just FYI you do need to be aware that a non Telepermitted device (such as an import from Australia) isn't legally allowed to be connected to the Chorus network.

Says the man with the slightly red face living in house with much glass....

sbiddle: The 7390 is a great device, I picked one up in Oz when I was over there last week.
  

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  Reply # 673276 16-Aug-2012 13:04 Send private message

cool only 1 page to get of the topic , is that a record?

meanwhile i would look at one but like most other people have already spent a lot of money on the 7340 so not sure if i could convince the wife for the need for another one.

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  Reply # 673278 16-Aug-2012 13:05 Send private message

oxnsox:
sbiddle:Just FYI you do need to be aware that a non Telepermitted device (such as an import from Australia) isn't legally allowed to be connected to the Chorus network.

Says the man with the slightly red face living in house with much glass....

sbiddle: The 7390 is a great device, I picked one up in Oz when I was over there last week.
  


And my device is hooked up via an ethernet connection (not DSL) and I'm not using the Fritz!fon so no Telepermit is required. Smile

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  Reply # 673286 16-Aug-2012 13:28 Send private message

@ Vexxxboy: Probably not
@ sbiddle: someone had to say it :P

...And back on topic.
Yes I'd be interested, depending on the details of course..

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  Reply # 673397 16-Aug-2012 17:15 Send private message

Is it really a criminal offence to connect a non telepermited device to chorus' network?

what kind of enforcement is in place? how much are the fines?













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  Reply # 673411 16-Aug-2012 18:01 Send private message

I wondered too. It does appear to be against the law to connect a non permitted device. I have no first hand knowledge but there would be little/no enforcement for individuals and I doubt you'd even get a call unless your device caused issues with telecoms equipment.

If your device did cause issues the law enables telecom etc to do something. Realistically I imagine they would tell you to disconnect it and that would be it, unless your equipment had caused damage in which case I imagine you would be liable. 

I personally don't think it is against the law to connect a fritzbox purchased in Australia to DSL here in NZ IF the devices (including the firmware) are exactly the same.

The telecommunications act says:

106 Operator must agree to connection to network
(1) Except as provided in Part 2, a person may only connect equipment to a network, or to anything connected to a network, that is owned or operated by an operator who has agreed to the connection.

This means the device must have a telepermit.

Section 108 says:

108 When operator must not refuse to agree to connection to network

(1) An operator must not refuse to agree to the connection of any equipment to a network, or to anything connected to a network, that is owned or operated by the operator if the only reason for the refusal is that the operator considers that the equipment does not conform with the operator's standards for connection of that equipment.

(2) Subsection (1) applies only if—

(a) the network operator has set either a standard that applies, or standards that apply, (applicable standards) to the equipment and its connection to the network; and

(b)those applicable standards have been published in accordance with any regulations made under section 109; and

(c)a relevant competent conformity assessment body has, in accordance with any regulations made under section 109, determined that the particular equipment complies with those published applicable standards.

I read this as they cant not let you connect a device that has a telepermit. My understanding is that the fritzbox has been permitted pursuant to section 108 (1)(c), but the Australian versions of the device have no sticker.

While a condition of the telepermit is displaying the telepermit sticker, I doubt I am breaking the law by connecting an Australian version that lacks the sticker, in the same way I doubt I am breaking the law if the telepermit label from my Snap purchased fritzbox was somehow removed and I connected that to the network.

(But then I'm not a lawyer and the law and logic/common sense are often at odds with each other)

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  Reply # 673452 16-Aug-2012 19:34 Send private message

blair003:

While a condition of the telepermit is displaying the telepermit sticker, I doubt I am breaking the law by connecting an Australian version that lacks the sticker, in the same way I doubt I am breaking the law if the telepermit label from my Snap purchased fritzbox was somehow removed and I connected that to the network.


Where did you find that displaying a telepermit sticker is a condition.  From here:


Products sold in New Zealand that have been granted a Telepermit also have the right to display a Telepermit label on the equipment. This label clearly indicates that the product has been certified and may be connected to the Telecom network.


Which I read as allowing it but not requiring it...

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  Reply # 673455 16-Aug-2012 19:40 Send private message

Same website, but here.

"A condition of a Telepermit is that the equipment displays a Telepermit Label. This label indicates the product has been certified and is suitable for connection to the Telecom New Zealand network and is usually located on the back or the bottom of the product. If the product does not display a Telepermit label then the product does not have a Telepermit."

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  Reply # 673459 16-Aug-2012 19:45 Send private message

Ah yup, that's more clear :)

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  Reply # 673585 17-Aug-2012 09:16 Send private message

I would have been keen and paid extra over the 7340 I got a month ago as part of the intro offer (I did ask if there was a 7390 model available at the time).

Is the wireless range better on the 7390 over the 7340 as this is the only thing I'm a little dissapointed with (when compared to my old Dynalink)? I'm running most devices via gigabit ethernet anyway, so not major issue.

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  Reply # 673596 17-Aug-2012 09:37 Send private message

I would be interested also, dependant on cost of course....

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  Reply # 677035 26-Aug-2012 09:54 Send private message

Other than the inbuilt storage I dont see any benifit in this for me.

Improved dect range, more dect handsets able to be registered, some IVR features etc would be nice, but I only need one ethernet port and my wireless is taken care of on boxes outside the server closet.

So no, since I already have the 40 I will not opt for the 90, and if both were available on signup unless the difference was only $30 or so then I would opt for the 40 then too.




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  Reply # 678063 28-Aug-2012 11:02 Send private message

good review of the fritzboz here

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/hands-on-fritzbox-7390-internet-gateway-20120825-24tw2.html

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  Reply # 678492 28-Aug-2012 23:06 Send private message

Keen depending on price.

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  Reply # 679537 31-Aug-2012 05:11 Send private message

Approx a year ago I became frustrated by the gear which was available here for VOIP and looked around. I then bought the Fritzbox 7270 with Gigaset S685IP handset. The whole lot wasn't cheap(UK). Not sure about permits.
Never looked back. VoIP and all is working flawless on a rural setting. Can call landlines or VoIP at press of a button and receive both, brilliant.
The only problem, if there is one, is when I forget where I have bookmarked the links to it. So seldom check and never had to change setting because it had problems.

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