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  Reply # 555055 7-Dec-2011 15:48 Send private message

Hi everyone! Here's some more information on the snap! free weekend: http://ow.ly/7R5NW ^AL




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  Reply # 555064 7-Dec-2011 15:58 Send private message

RalphFromSnap: Hi everyone! Here's some more information on the snap! free weekend: http://ow.ly/7R5NW ^AL 


"What you won’t see however is increased latency or slowdowns – our network is designed to keep up with demand. snap! always continue to add capacity in anticipation of growth."

lol... 

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Telstra Customer

"What’s more, we have updated our online tools so You can view how much data you have used across the entire weekend."

Nice feature Ralph.






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  Reply # 555069 7-Dec-2011 16:09 Send private message

DonGould:
lol... 

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"What’s more, we have updated our online tools so You can view how much data you have used across the entire weekend."

Nice feature Ralph.




Wow Don, you sure are a bitter person! Don't worry it's almost the weekend and maybe you can take a chill pill.

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  Reply # 555249 7-Dec-2011 22:25 Send private message

On a side note - if the meter can include the data for the weekend - could a meter be added to include how much youtube we get to scab out for the $2?

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  Reply # 555390 8-Dec-2011 11:42 Send private message



"What you won’t see however is increased latency or slowdowns – our network is designed to keep up with demand. snap! always continue to add capacity in anticipation of growth."





So believable.....






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  Reply # 555401 8-Dec-2011 11:56 Send private message

NZCrusader:


"What you won’t see however is increased latency or slowdowns – our network is designed to keep up with demand. snap! always continue to add capacity in anticipation of growth."





So believable.....




I don't see why that's not easy to believe.

I was joking about it because after last weekend with Telstra, it was kinda expected that we'd see such a comment.

Snap are a size smaller than Telstra, to the point where entire user base going bonkers in one go isn't as likely to swamp their upstream.

In my very limited view, providers like Snap can get away with bringing this sort of value to the market without causing problems.

If Snap were to double demand it might be moving from 1Gb or traffic to 2Gb, so to their up stream that might only be adding 10% to over all traffic.  (assuming that Telstra is 10 times the size of Snap).

But Telstra is the big fish in the space, so if they double their traffic they then saturate their upstream who doesn't have demand capacity on line to deal with 200k customers all doubling demand at one time.

Snap also have more than one upstream with completely different peering arrangements into Australia and the US (our two points of connection).

Telstra only deal with Reach.

So I totally believe that Snap and other small ISPs can do this without having any impact on their upstreams and the global peering market.








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  Reply # 555420 8-Dec-2011 12:34 Send private message

On a slightly different note does anyone is CHCH need anything downloaded?
I dont know if ill be able to fill the whole weekend with downloads lol.

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  Reply # 555448 8-Dec-2011 13:25 Send private message

This is Snap's third free data weekend and by most accounts the last two went well in comparison to Telstraclear's first effort.

I do hope Telstraclear try again at some point, though with proper management of unattended/non interactive downloading to preserve decent latency/response time next time.

Haters are going to hate..

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  Reply # 555542 8-Dec-2011 15:59 Send private message

frizianz: On a slightly different note does anyone is CHCH need anything downloaded?
I dont know if ill be able to fill the whole weekend with downloads lol.


Yeah bro, could you pick me up some Rihanna .mp3s? Cheers!

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  Reply # 555547 8-Dec-2011 16:11 Send private message

frizianz: On a slightly different note does anyone is CHCH need anything downloaded?
I dont know if ill be able to fill the whole weekend with downloads lol.


I'm not into Rihanna but I'll PM you a list of movies and TV episodes I'd like to see.

Innocent

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  Reply # 555612 8-Dec-2011 18:55 Send private message

McNulty:
frizianz: On a slightly different note does anyone is CHCH need anything downloaded?
I dont know if ill be able to fill the whole weekend with downloads lol.


Yeah bro, could you pick me up some Rihanna .mp3s? Cheers!


Trollolol is all i have to say to that. 

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  Reply # 555673 8-Dec-2011 21:33

For those that missed the joke:
"Copyright crackdown: Parents nailed to mast by teen pirates"
<http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10763252>

"Telecom received 42 notices - 35 for alleged download of songs by R&B star Rihanna"

"Orcon received six notices - five of which were for downloading Rihanna songs."

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  Reply # 555853 9-Dec-2011 11:48 Send private message

DonGould:
NZCrusader:


"What you won’t see however is increased latency or slowdowns – our network is designed to keep up with demand. snap! always continue to add capacity in anticipation of growth."





So believable.....




I don't see why that's not easy to believe.

I was joking about it because after last weekend with Telstra, it was kinda expected that we'd see such a comment.

Snap are a size smaller than Telstra, to the point where entire user base going bonkers in one go isn't as likely to swamp their upstream.

In my very limited view, providers like Snap can get away with bringing this sort of value to the market without causing problems.

If Snap were to double demand it might be moving from 1Gb or traffic to 2Gb, so to their up stream that might only be adding 10% to over all traffic.  (assuming that Telstra is 10 times the size of Snap).

But Telstra is the big fish in the space, so if they double their traffic they then saturate their upstream who doesn't have demand capacity on line to deal with 200k customers all doubling demand at one time.

Snap also have more than one upstream with completely different peering arrangements into Australia and the US (our two points of connection).

Telstra only deal with Reach.

So I totally believe that Snap and other small ISPs can do this without having any impact on their upstreams and the global peering market.










Im well aware Snap are much smaller than Telstra. (customer wise)
I drive past their building virtually every day, as a matter of fact.

Still, every network only buys X amount of bandwidth, per X number of customers.
Unless they have 1:1 and alot of hardware to share the load over multiple links I dont see how they could be certain for network pings not to rise / speeds not to slow as they claim.


In reality, they are betting on the fact that they dont have many heavy users on their network.
(They're all on Slingshot XD) 

Thus only a fraction of their residential customer base will be maxing their lines out, so their uplinks will not get saturated to the point of congestion.





If alot more of the users decided to thrash their connection...


Then we would see the fireworks ;)









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  Reply # 555859 9-Dec-2011 12:18 Send private message

NZCrusader:  If alot more of the users decided to thrash their connection...






Hardly think Telstra customers thrashed their connections over the weekend at all.

How do the figures above compare with the average load of Telstra customers in Australia?






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  Reply # 555921 9-Dec-2011 14:06 Send private message

If they use the same routers for their backbone as the ones they showed us in the data centre, I think you would have to be trying pretty hard to make them struggle.

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