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  Reply # 399366 2-Nov-2010 22:05 Send private message

Oncop53: My wife's phone is dieing and I want to get her a cheap android.

What would you  choose out of the Vodafone 845 http://bit.ly/bn0o10
or the 2degrees IDEOS U8150 http://bit.ly/9wxhyw

?


Of those two, I'd get the IDEOS. Also in the price range are the LG Optimus GT540 and the SE Xperia Mini 

But the IDEOS comes with Android v2.2, which is a big plus for performance, provided the phone has enough RAM to support JIT. The IDEOS should, with 256Mb. Just. Top line phones have 512MB. HTC Magic 32b has 192MB...and JIT is pretty bad. Just not enough RAM in 192MB.  

ASIDE: None of the <$400 phones can do Adobe Flash. They are all ARMv6-based (the processor)...and the processor in the phone has to be ARMv7 to support Flash on the phone (or other device). Android v2.2 is also required for Flash - so ARMv7 + Android v2.2 = Flash works pretty well on the phone. 





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  Reply # 399485 3-Nov-2010 09:03 Send private message

$175 at Dick Smith until 7/11
http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/en/product/E4136

I still prefer my Ideos though :)

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  Reply # 399492 3-Nov-2010 09:17 Send private message

andrewcnz:
andrewcnz: Picked up 2, one for the Kid and one for me to play with (big kid). Cheap as but no comparison to my Galaxy S. Both are on 2degrees now.They have a $200 Vodafone prepay sticker with a code that are unwanted.If you are on supa pre pay and want a code. PM me and will give you one. Have only two to give.T and C are on Vodafone site.


Both gone now. Enjoy


Damn!!!

If anyone gets those codes and don't need it, please PM me. I got mine from the Warehouse but it did not come with the sticker.

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  Reply # 399493 3-Nov-2010 09:20 Send private message

graemeh: $175 at Dick Smith until 7/11
http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/en/product/E4136

I still prefer my Ideos though :)



Damn again!!!!! Wish I could return mine to Warehouse

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  Reply # 399505 3-Nov-2010 09:55 Send private message

Linuxluver:
Oncop53: My wife's phone is dieing and I want to get her a cheap android.

What would you  choose out of the Vodafone 845 http://bit.ly/bn0o10
or the 2degrees IDEOS U8150 http://bit.ly/9wxhyw

?


Of those two, I'd get the IDEOS. Also in the price range are the LG Optimus GT540 and the SE Xperia Mini 

But the IDEOS comes with Android v2.2, which is a big plus for performance, provided the phone has enough RAM to support JIT. The IDEOS should, with 256Mb. Just. Top line phones have 512MB. HTC Magic 32b has 192MB...and JIT is pretty bad. Just not enough RAM in 192MB.  

ASIDE: None of the <$400 phones can do Adobe Flash. They are all ARMv6-based (the processor)...and the processor in the phone has to be ARMv7 to support Flash on the phone (or other device). Android v2.2 is also required for Flash - so ARMv7 + Android v2.2 = Flash works pretty well on the phone. 



I was thinking about the Ideos but the HTC Wildfire is $450 from Clove so am thinking that would be a better bet with better processor and memory, anyone got any opinions? It's getting so confusing!

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  Reply # 399508 3-Nov-2010 10:07 Send private message

Why would you spend $400 on a phone with a QVGA screen?




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  Reply # 399509 3-Nov-2010 10:08 Send private message

Are there any in that price band without?

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  Reply # 399546 3-Nov-2010 11:43 Send private message

Yes look at Pricespy - there's the Galaxy Spica for ~$400 that has HVGA Screen and 800mhz processor




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  Reply # 399549 3-Nov-2010 11:45 Send private message

Yes but there doesn't appear to be any chance of that getting Froyo from what I have read so it's kind of dead in the water

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-spica/153404-spica-android-2-2-offical-edit-no-froyo-2.html

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  Reply # 399552 3-Nov-2010 11:52 Send private message

What reason do you have to get Froyo with an ARMv6 processor anyway? you can't even get flash. oh and if you did have to have Froyo (despite there not being a whole lot of reason to) you could get an HTC Magic and load CyanogenMod onto it.




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  Reply # 399555 3-Nov-2010 11:57 Send private message

graemeh: $175 at Dick Smith until 7/11
http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/en/product/E4136

I still prefer my Ideos though :)


As someone who has very much been left behind by the smartphone revolution (got a Razr v3X), I find this phone very attractive. I currently am aiming for a Samsung Galaxy S I9000 or iPhone (still can't help feeling this is the cream of the current smartphone market; but am willing to get an Android device as my wife already has an iPhone), but the reality of the situation is that I would not be in a position to get one of those babies until mid next year (and only then if the taxman is good to me). 

Considering I'm a low usage phone user, who primarily TXTs (and hates it on his Razr), how good are these phones? Are they good enough that I wouldn't suffer the expected phone envy everytime I see a Galaxy or iPhone (which is a daily occurance :-(), or is really not worth it and I should stick to when I can afford a higher end model? One thing that is firmly in the back of my mind is how awesome the iPhone 4 is for taking concert footage (see here for stuff I took from my wifes phone), and I know these ones won't be able to compete there. Are there other such areas that I'll be constantly thinking "if only"?  

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  Reply # 399556 3-Nov-2010 11:58 Send private message

lokhor: What reason do you have to get Froyo with an ARMv6 processor anyway? you can't even get flash. oh and if you did have to have Froyo (despite there not being a whole lot of reason to) you could get an HTC Magic and load CyanogenMod onto it.


I didn't realise the Wildfire had that one, see what I mean about confusing ;)

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  Reply # 399582 3-Nov-2010 13:03 Send private message

Wildfire uses the Qualcom MSM 7225 the same as the Ideos (Huawei 8150) and Vodafone 845 (Huawei 8120). They all have QVGA screens. The screen on the Vodafone 845 is quite lacking in detail and contrast compared to the Galaxy S. it's quite a different experience.

I would not recommend getting a phone with less than HVGA (320x480) resolution if you want to do any sort of web browsing or multimedia. The Galaxy S screen is ideal for multimedia. If you aren't too fussed about OS and still want a smartphone there's always the Samsung S8500 Wave that runs Bada OS - it has a 3.3" WVGA SAMOLED screen and basically the same other specs as the i9000.




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  Reply # 399591 3-Nov-2010 13:25 Send private message

dclegg:
graemeh: $175 at Dick Smith until 7/11
http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/en/product/E4136

I still prefer my Ideos though :)


Considering I'm a low usage phone user, who primarily TXTs (and hates it on his Razr), how good are these phones? Are they good enough that I wouldn't suffer the expected phone envy everytime I see a Galaxy or iPhone (which is a daily occurance :-(), or is really not worth it and I should stick to when I can afford a higher end model? One thing that is firmly in the back of my mind is how awesome the iPhone 4 is for taking concert footage (see here for stuff I took from my wifes phone), and I know these ones won't be able to compete there. Are there other such areas that I'll be constantly thinking "if only"?  



Will you suffer phone envy?...absolutely.

However this cheap phone can do far more customisation than your wife's iphone4.

However it would never match up to it because the hardware is way inferior to the iphone

http://www.gsmarena.com/vodafone_845-3533.php

Yes, you can do things like GPS, wifi and the lot, however when compared to the iphone it would feel laggy. Also no multitouch on this phone.

I have not tested video yet, but some of the games are extremely slow on this.

The SGS outmatches the iphone4 in many ways except maybe for taking pictures and lack of flash

However I think if you wait, you should keep a eye out for the Vodafone 945

http://www.gsmarena.com/vodafone_945-3533.php

This I believe would square up to the Iphone quite well, as I think this would fall in the middle of a SGS and V845, with some really good features.

This might sell for around $500-$600, so a excellent value for money.







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  Reply # 399592 3-Nov-2010 13:29 Send private message

Picked up one of these from dickies, it's at home charging now. When I get home it'll be getting a custom ROM. ;)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741643

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