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  Reply # 399605 3-Nov-2010 13:47 Send private message

pritishd: 
Will you suffer phone envy?...absolutely.


Yeah, I reckon I know this to be true, but my desire to upgrade my old dinosaur is clouding my judgement and allowing me to be tempted by lesser offerings :-)

 pritishd:
The SGS outmatches the iphone4 in many ways except maybe for taking pictures and lack of flash


The lack of flash doesn't worry me too much, nor does the picture quality (although from what I understand it can actually be better than the iPhone, depending on what you're looking for). The thing that concerns me the most is the phones build quality. The iPhone feels like a quality piece of kit when you hold it, whereas the Galaxy S appears very cheap and plasticky in comparison. Is this really a problem, or once it is cased up is it something you don't really notice?

I have also heard reports of the Samsung Android phones suffering from lag once you start running a few apps on 'em. Is this really an issue, or a storm in a teacup?

 pritishd:
However I think if you wait, you should keep a eye out for the Vodafone 945


Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.

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  Reply # 399607 3-Nov-2010 13:48 Send private message

Hmm, I'm pretty tempted by the $175 pricetag, but the screen is too average for me. I checked out the IDEOS, icons and text looked a bit blurry, and it was sluggish. I like the Samsung Galaxy 580 but it's quite a bit more expensive and seems like a few online places are selling i5801 (Apollo?) quoting i5800 specs, hard to know what you would get.
Might go play with a VF845 again

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  Reply # 399622 3-Nov-2010 14:07 Send private message

Well, it's pretty decent for the $175 pricetag, if you want more, you pay more :)

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  Reply # 399625 3-Nov-2010 14:13 Send private message

I got my V845 this monring. The NZ Post courier van was pulling in just as I arrived. Perfect.

I charged it up. I'm using a 2Degrees SIM as that's all I have spare. I added 1GB of data to it for $20.

-It does Wifi.
-It does Bluetooth. Spoke to my Nokia headset no issues. Made a call.
-It does GPS. Located me via Google Maps in seconds. BETTER THAN GALAXY S.
-It does 3G.
-It's got about 183MB of usable system RAM for running apps.
-It's running Android v2.1
-It has an FM radio.
-It has a decent camera/vidcam with reasonable function set / controls.
-It has about 160MB of internal storage space for apps.
-It does NOT have an sdcard, but I added an 8GB and away I went.
-It has a 2.8" resistive screen. Be sure to calibrate it. Use a very fine-tipped pointer - not your finger. The screen is smallish and not as nice to use as a capacitive screen. But surpirsingly responsive anyway. I've had no issues.
-It has an optical sensor which minimises the amount of touching on the screen.

-No multi-touch.

THERE IS NO LAG!!!!!!! (Unlike Galaxy S). It is very responsive. With animations reduced, it's actually fast.

Could it be better? Sure. Bigger screen, capacitive, AMOLED, more RAM....yadda yadda.

Android v2.2 would be nice so I could have Apps2SD. That's really all this phone needs that it hasn't got. I don't really care about multi-touch.

Bottom line? For the $199 I paid for it, this wee phone is - in a word - AWESOME. This is 80% of a high-end phone for 15%-20% of the price.









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  Reply # 399630 3-Nov-2010 14:19 Send private message

kyhwana2: Well, it's pretty decent for the $175 pricetag, if you want more, you pay more :)


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  Reply # 399632 3-Nov-2010 14:22 Send private message

Linuxluver can you try out some custom firmware on it? My mum has one and i'm very tempted to flash with custom firmware but don't want to break her phone




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  Reply # 399633 3-Nov-2010 14:23 Send private message

Linuxluver:
kyhwana2: Well, it's pretty decent for the $175 pricetag, if you want more, you pay more :)


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Yeah I don't think it's useful for all the uber geeks to compare these devices with the Desire and Galaxy as they're nearly $1000 not $175.

I am totally confused about what to get almost to the point of giving up and waiting a while.

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  Reply # 399646 3-Nov-2010 14:44 Send private message

What are your requirements in a phone?




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  Reply # 399652 3-Nov-2010 14:49 Send private message

lokhor: Linuxluver can you try out some custom firmware on it? My mum has one and i'm very tempted to flash with custom firmware but don't want to break her phone


I can once I've got my head around the phone. That usually takes me a week or few depending on the culture around the device and how mature it is (software, docs, independently-written improvements, ease of rooting and restoring).

The default ROM seems pretty good so far. Just rooting that would be not too shabby. But Apps2SD would more or less perfect the phone (bearing in mind its inherent limitations). 





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  Reply # 399676 3-Nov-2010 15:34 Send private message

Linuxluver: I got my V845 this monring. The NZ Post courier van was pulling in just as I arrived. Perfect.


Android v2.2 would be nice so I could have Apps2SD. That's really all this phone needs that it hasn't got. I don't really care about multi-touch.



I believe the custom ROM I linked to (which is 2.1) has apps2SD+ support.
 

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  Reply # 399677 3-Nov-2010 15:35 Send private message

The specs impress me for the price (I think my wife is getting an early xmas pressie). I noted a couple of things as well:

Doesn't do 850 umts (so won't work on telecom rurally). Does do 900 & 2100 umts
Can run skype (plus wifi is sweet) - be good to know the performance
If rooted will be a wifi hotspot (for your ipad/samsung tab)
2 x custom roms available on xda dev
Will run a simplenote alternative (great for a shared shopping list with my iphone)

Does anyone know if you can get spare batteries for this phone?

Ta Jon

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  Reply # 399678 3-Nov-2010 15:35 Send private message

Yeah i think app2sd is a must since it only has 160mb for applications. my mum ran out of space basically as soon as i taught her how to use the market haha




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  Reply # 399692 3-Nov-2010 15:53 Send private message

kyhwana2: Picked up one of these from dickies, it's at home charging now. When I get home it'll be getting a custom ROM. ;)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741643


Just a heads up, wifi Does not work on that.

I installed Celestial Teapot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802893


jonherries:
Does anyone know if you can get spare batteries for this phone?

Ta Jon


Yes they should be quite easy to get(unlike the iPhail), but i reckon you won't need them till atleast the next 3-4 years. The batteries on these are very good.


  dclegg:
Yeah, I reckon I know this to be true, but my desire to upgrade my old dinosaur is clouding my judgement and allowing me to be tempted by lesser offerings :-).

This is awesome oppurtunity to bring up a "patience" quote, but can't think of any at the moment Innocent

But you know as well as I do, you are bound to have iphone fanboys with your mates, so better to have a real cool phone that can do much more than the iphone

  The thing that concerns me the most is the phones build quality. The iPhone feels like a quality piece of kit when you hold it, whereas the Galaxy S appears very cheap and plasticky in comparison. Is this really a problem, or once it is cased up is it something you don't really notice?


Personally I don't mind the outside look. Having "Google" brand on the back is pretty cool iIMHO

I have a silicon case, so it looks decent.

For me what bugged me the most was the "Touch Wiz" launcher. It was too iphone clone like. First order of business was to replace that with launcher pro.(btw you can't do that sort of things on the iphone)



I have also heard reports of the Samsung Android phones suffering from lag once you start running a few apps on 'em. Is this really an issue, or a storm in a teacup?

Funny enough after tinkering with VF845, I felt my SGS was like lightening speed.

Yes, there are lag issues, but Sammy is just being a idiot and releasing the froyo update which fixes those issues.

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  Reply # 399694 3-Nov-2010 15:57 Send private message

I got one in the end for $175 from DSE and was surprised they have a 2 year warranty, just using it to learn to drive Android as for that price you can't lose

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  Reply # 399710 3-Nov-2010 16:23 Send private message

langers1972: I got one in the end for $175 from DSE and was surprised they have a 2 year warranty, just using it to learn to drive Android as for that price you can't lose


Be aware you can swipe the keyboard left or right to get different layouts. There are several and I didn't much like the "T9"-ish default.




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