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#1690 10-Jun-2004 12:16
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Dunno if this is the right forum for this, but hey, they use W-CDMA don't they? ;)

I'd just like to describe my experience with Woosh Wireless over the past couple of months.

Moving from Freemans Bay to Balmoral, I found myself in the coverage area for the Woosh wireless service, rather than chucking more money at Telecom I thought I'd give Woosh a go for my broadband needs - what a huge mistake.

I'm on Everyday home plan ($54.95 a month). Had read all the bad press about high latency that didn't bother me, I only wanted it for browsing, email and the odd download, not hardcore online gaming.

I was told I'd need a booster aerial in my area, no big deal I thought. The kit (modem and booster aerial) arrived a few days after signing up and the trouble begins. Basically the W-CDMA 'modem' they use is old and flaky. It feels cheap. IP Wireless don't even list them on their website any more. The power on/off button is highly insensitive, and real knack is required to switch it on and off. Not a biggie but quite annoying. Have also noticed if its left powered on too long it gets hot and switches itself off.

The software supplied is also poorly designed and doesn't seem to integrate with Win XP too well. Another thing, the supplied software has an autoupdate feature that sends an ftp request to a Woosh server to download update - does this work? Hell no, all thats returned is an ftp error message 'Sorry. Cannot change to directory blahblah on ftp.woosh.co.nz' That gives you some idea of the competence of this company.

Trying to actually connect to the network proves another challenge. Hit connect and 9 times out of 10 you'll get a "Network Unavailable" or "Sorry, the remote computer did not respond error message". This requires you to either just sit there and hit connect a few times in quick succession to get a connection, or power the modem on and off then retry. Annoying. Oh and when you connect, the software doesn't show the signal strength and more?

If you do manage to get a connection you'll find the network speed varies greatly over the course of a day. Early morning and late afternoon seem to be the slowest times, where everything slows down to sub-56k modem speeds. You'll never really get close to 256k unless you are lucky and the stars are aligned correctly. You'll be disconnected at random times. You'll watch the Woosh DNS servers cr@p their pants regularly. You'll cry when you download speed drops to 0.2k.

Their 'support' is next to useless. Yes, all the pretty lights on my modem are all on. It says I have four bars of coverage. I think in the ten or so email and telephone contacts I've had with Woosh, I have managed to speak to one vaguely technically literate person.

I've had two different modems, tried them on four different PC's at three different locations around their supposed coverage area. All with the same results. Is this some sort of beta service? If so can I pay beta prices?

Needless to say I'm going back to Telecom DSL. Think carefully before signing up. Anyone else had any good/bad experiences with Woosh?




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  #6471 10-Jun-2004 14:14
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actually. Woosh isn't using WCDMA. it's a variant of GSM+WCDMA sort of technology that pretty unique to NZ's design. IT's very new technology. I think it is brilliant for anyone who is always on the move in the metro area.

Give it more time to rectify problems, not everything started of with perfect working condition, takes many iteration and refinement to get things to a wonderful state.




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  #6476 10-Jun-2004 14:45
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I stand corrected.

Haven't they been running for over year now though? How much time do they need?




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  #6477 10-Jun-2004 14:58
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Auckland metro release was more of a testing bed for this new wireless technology, they're using the new radio technology that is similar to 3G but not quite 3G and it's proprietary technology.

Woosh is looking to push this technology overseas, which may eventually competing with WiMAX.

Anyway, it is launching in Wellington soon and may be by Christmas it will be in Christchurch. But it still have a long way to fully making it a solid wireless solution. It is good for normal internet usage. but Woosh is still improving it and trying to get the latency down, and they have a new device out already, sleeker slimmer looking. Last i talked to the Sales person when i was in auckland, he said it is constantly being improved and tested.

So hang on and see how it goes, or call up the support and check with them what's the deal with constant falling-over.




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#6482 10-Jun-2004 17:31
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It's already available in Wellington. I tried contacting then three times using the website contact and did not get a reply. I then contacted a person directly there, and replied to his e-mail with my address and coverage, and did not get anything after that. Still waiting.

Woosh is on Newsweek this week as one of the factors that put Auckland in the wireless map worldwide.




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  #6483 10-Jun-2004 18:15
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Yeah I read that in Newsweek too. Awesome heheh. putting NZ on the international map.




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  #6484 10-Jun-2004 18:31
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Well, my experience has been its *not* very good for normal internet usage.

If Auckland was a test bed why am I still paying $54.95 a month for the privilege? Why pay that much for a substandard service?

Out of the 10 or so people I know who use it regularly, the 4 or 5 that actually pay for it (ie don't get it paid for by work) are thinking of moving and advising people not to use it. Thats not very good word of mouth. I'm interested to hear what other geekzone users that use the service think.

Its being marketed as a competitor to Jetstream, which its obviously not. Though I sure hope it becomes one!




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  #6485 10-Jun-2004 18:48
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I guess it is probably due to how Auckland's terrain and affecting the wireless signal... I've been waiting for it to come to Christchurch but since March, i have signed up with TelstraClear cable.


Don't ask me why it is priced at $55, i supposed it's to compete with Jetstream Mobile more so, and alternative solution to Jetstream for those that can't get adsl, or cable.


I wonder, why would you choose to use Woosh if you are within the area to get adsl? hmmm.. anyway, the way i look at Woosh is that it is for those who are constantly on the move and not wanting to tie down with land/wired connection. (at least that's what Woosh is advertising it as)




Anyway, if you're not happy with the service you can always change to other alternative. ehehe




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#6486 10-Jun-2004 19:21
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Hi ,
I have been on woosh wireless in Invercargill since March this year and have had great down load speeds and no problem with dropped connections or failed attempts to connect and I use a booster antenna.
I had a problem with email settings at the start and their help line emailed a reply no problems.

Terrain can cause all sorts of problems and in really odd spots.


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  #6487 10-Jun-2004 20:23
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I read somewhere that Whoosh is going to start rolling out their network in Christchurch next month, although I suspect it will take some time to get reasonable coverage established.

Anyway, based on the comments above, it sounds like Christchurch's geography would be much better suited to it than that of Auckland or Wellington so it will be interesting to see how things go here. Personally, I have been with Telstra Clear for a few months and I am happy with them but when I move into another rental property, I might consider Whoosh to save the cost and hassle of installing Telstra Clear in the new property.

Since I don't really need the speed of Telstra Clear, and portability is a big plus (anything's got to be cheaper and faster than GPRS), I will definitely be keen to give Whoosh a go at some stage in the future.

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  #6503 11-Jun-2004 11:54
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in reply to Kenz and Alasta, I do think the terrain is the main reason that causes the connection problem... flat cantabrian terrain will be the best place for wireless connection like Woosh, so i am pretty sure when Woosh launches the service next month, it will be smooth launch.

And i do think it is pretty sensible to use Auckland for their testbed as due to the terrain in Auckland, if majority part of Auckland can get a decent signal, then it should be no problem for most other part of the NZ. But sorry to hear that some Aucklanders may fall into the "Black spot"... my condolence is with thy.




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#6577 15-Jun-2004 10:30
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Got a contact back from Woosh today, and will arrange for a review unit... I'm keen to see how it works...




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  #6583 15-Jun-2004 14:21
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Yeah see how you go Mauricio... I'd be interested in your comments.

I had a very similar experience to 'nobody'. As a consultant, I recommended a Woosh trial for a client in the Auckland CBD, because it (as advertised) matched their requirements for cost and bandwidth. We tried an 'enterprise' connection, which if I recall correctly was 500kbs with a 10Gig cap.

In reality, the connection was extremely flakey, and we also got to the point of sub-56k speeds, which when shared between seven or eight users was total insanity. Bear in mind that this was from the 22nd floor of a Queen St building WITH a booster aerial.

Given that, I can only presume that the speed and quality issues lie with the Woosh infrastructure, rather than the inherent flakiness of wifi. This also would explain nobody's experience with slowness in the early morning (business users checking email) and late afternoon (school kids/gaming maybe?). I remember the same thing happening with Jetstream in the early days, when school holidays would result in severe slowdowns and outages.

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#6585 15-Jun-2004 14:32
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I actually got an e-mail back from Peter W. regarding the technical issues reported here in this thread. He's the Marketing Manager at Woosh and was really nice on his e-mail. He's offered his contact details to anyone who encounters a problem and can't find a solution in a reasonable timeframe. If you need to contact him (only serious issues, folks!), please send me a private message and I'll forward contact details.

They're watching this space too...




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#6612 16-Jun-2004 23:15
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Received the Woosh modem today! Took me less than five minutes to install the software onto my laptop, plug the USB cable and start using it. Very nice!

I work on The Terrace, and signal was strong and had no problems to connect there. I tried it from my office, on a 14th floor. I'll try this in the car and from some other places now.

Of course it didn't work where I live, but that's ok - quite a way from CBD.




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  #6783 23-Jun-2004 14:03
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How are you getting on with Woosh Mauricio?

Any dropped connections or trouble connecting?

Hows the speed down there?




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