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#20062 12-Mar-2008 10:08
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When a media company in the U.S. "opens to all" it basically means "all in the U.S. are welcome to register now that we are no longer a closed beta"

NZ Herald does not note this in the syndicated article... Why don't they say "this is not available in New Zealand"?






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  #116084 12-Mar-2008 10:09

I laughed when I saw this also.. No mention of it being US only, since when did people stop getting their facts straight?



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  #116085 12-Mar-2008 10:13
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Because the Herald got lazy and simply ran a syndicated Reuters story. If only the editor had spent 5 seconds of their life visiting Hulu, the "only available in the US" would've saved them some credibility.

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  #116089 12-Mar-2008 10:21
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I knew it was for US only Wink , but was feeling sorry for others who would think it would be avaialable in NZ Surprised




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  #116107 12-Mar-2008 12:26
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Stuff don't know either. They've even linked to the site!

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#116111 12-Mar-2008 13:07
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can't even play The Simpsons video on their home page..




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  #116114 12-Mar-2008 13:28
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PromNZ: Because the Herald got lazy and simply ran a syndicated Reuters story. If only the editor had spent 5 seconds of their life visiting Hulu, the "only available in the US" would've saved them some credibility.


I'm sure if you knew how a newsroom (i'm making an assumption on that one so am preparing my flame retardant mailbox filter!) works and how many stories are processed on a daily basis you wouldn't be as quick to blame the editor as you would be to blame the archaic methods of dealing with agency syndicated copy.  I sometimes see over 1000 stories come in from international agencies in the course of a day.  When you consider most NZ newsrooms are receiving international feeds from at least 3 sources (Reuters, AP, and AAP) then that number jumps to near 3000 stories per day.  Then you add the content that is produced by an agencies internal journalists and you've got a pretty unmanageable amount of content to have to get out to the public by the next printing deadline. 

Sometimes things slip through that should be adequately NZ-ified but aren't. 

And where does the editor sit in all of this?  he's usually the guy that's 4 hours away from a heart attack and tombstone that says "here lies the editor - stress was a factor".

The print media paradigm needs to be severely adjusted to cope with modern content delivery mechanisms - and the uncontrollable influx of international copy.


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  #116526 14-Mar-2008 06:57
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I understand content rights are allocated regionally, and according to the technology used (sort of). "Joe Bloggs" could own rights to The Simpsons in the USA over IPTV, "Bob Smith" could own rights to The Simpsons in the USA over cable, and "Jane Doe" could own rights to The Simpsons over IPTV in New Zealand.

It costs big bucks to get rights for things like that - which is usually being bid on by several organisations. It's not economically viable for a US company to purchase every region in the world - especially such a small market as NZ, and especially based on Hulu's business model.

With Orcon stating they're moving into IPTV in the (near?) future, hopefully they'll start acquiring some good IPTV content rights.

 
 
 

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  #116570 14-Mar-2008 09:42
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Thanks gehenna.

Yup, I work for 3News so I too see a lot of info coming my way on a daily basis. But the effort to move the importance of a story up usually requires looking at the screen. Me thinkgs the Herald folks couldn't see the forrest for the trees.

And considering it wasn't a "plane crasing into a building" day, there really isn't anything major happening that would be of such a distraction that the editor would be overly rushed, imo. If they can't get basic stuff like this right, what happens on really, really busy news days ? I do think the old scene of heart attack screaming editors working flat out just moments away from the deadline do make for a good scene in a movie . . . . perhaps not so in real life.

The movie Broadcast News isn't a documentary for us folks Laughing

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#121296 5-Apr-2008 13:45
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Here is another example of article that fails to mention that those movie download servcices are only available in the U.S., creating confusion instead of being informative.





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  #121304 5-Apr-2008 14:06
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They also recently linked to the BBC iPlayer. Of course it didn't work, unless they were targeting the vast number of Herald readers living in the UK.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/6/story.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10501602




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  #121347 5-Apr-2008 17:24
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freitasm:

Here is another example of article that fails to mention that those movie download servcices are only available in the U.S., creating confusion instead of being informative.



I liked this piece
"Apple TV costs $US229 ($NZ520 in NZ) for 40-gigabytes of storage that can store 50 hours of video, or $US329 for quadruple the memory."

Good old NZ rip off again.. Currently US$229 = NZ$290




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#123113 12-Apr-2008 20:41
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Now this is more like it: Hulu may be working on opening for Canada, UK, and Australia (note the wishful thinking of th author on the linked post, who thinks this may be happening because of the position of some country names in a drop down list).





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  #125155 20-Apr-2008 20:29
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There is a pretty easy way to get around the NZ restriction but I won't post it here as it's possibly not appropriate to the forum. I watched bits of an episode of 24 season 1 (that I have on DVD anyway) and even during peak times this evening, I was able to get the streamed video with very little interruptions (and am doing doing bittorrent on another machine at the same time!). A few ads popped up during the transmission but they were very unobtrusive and only lasted 15 seconds or so.

But given that our network allocations are somewhat challenged(!) I doubt if I would do this too much.

This is on the TCL 40G 10Mbs/2Mbs plan.

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  #125204 21-Apr-2008 09:10
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What sort of bitrate did you need to stream and  how many Mbytes do you use??




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old3eyes: What sort of bitrate did you need to stream and ?how many Mbytes do you use??


Don't know. I just connected to the site and started watching. Was fine on my 10Mbs TCL connection with only the occasional jerkiness (not surprising given how many hops etc.). As for the amount of data used, I don't really know how to measure that since you can't really rely on the TCL usage meter. Do you have any ideas of tools that could be used to measure data usage?




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