jcr976 - you do realise that the explantion of 3G that you referred to earlier was just a quote from Vodafone's website, right? Just purely to show that they are STILL quoting early 2005.

Either way, I fully appreciate that it's no easy task rolling out the new system - it's just difficult to make business plans when they keep shifting the dates as well.

I agree with Vodafone's recent comments that there isn't much point releasing it until there is compelling content for "Joe Public", but it would be good for them to allow access to the technology for those of us that are prepared to accept it "as is".

And sbiddle - thanks for the dates for oktoberfest!