Help with paradox spectra 728 house alarm

Forums › Home Workshop DIY › Help with paradox spectra 728 house alarm

spoonynz

9 posts

Wannabe Geek
Inactive user

#130893 1-Oct-2013 21:11

Hey people,

Recently had some work done at home and the power was cut off for a bit, ever since the reset my alarm has now a tbl 3 light illuminated and then pressing trouble it lights up 9..... now i have done some research and cant work out if this is possibly a cut wire in a zone or just a tamper fault in the alarm that just needs resetting as the ac power was cut ( which kinda makes sense ) ... I am at a wits end and heard that this was the place for genius and geeks alike! so somebody please help me as the wife is worried without the alarm, and I thought i would seek further advice before spending the money on getting it checked!

sidefx

3716 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#906005 1-Oct-2013 21:21

Have you tried just pressing TBL then CLEAR?

"I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there." | Octopus Energy | Sharesies
- Richard Feynman

spoonynz

9 posts

Wannabe Geek
Inactive user

#906006 1-Oct-2013 21:23

yeh just beeps at me!

Talkiet

4793 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#906032 1-Oct-2013 22:20

This is ridiculous... I have the same issue on my Paradox alarm as well, "3" lights up and prevents me setting the alarm. I have tried reading the manual, phoning the monitoring company... No luck. I haven't got someone out to look at it yet but the code is AC problem... It's clearly not a battery error code., and the alarm does have mains power.

It seemed to happen after a smoke alarm activation, but I was able to clear that ok.

I thought I was going mad.

Sorry I can't help, but you're not alone.

Cheers - N

Please note all comments are from my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.

Talkiet

4793 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#906047 1-Oct-2013 22:52

Your post inspired me to try again... This time I just turned the alarm off and disconnected the battery backup battery for a couple of minutes then reconnected the battery and turned the power back on.

This cleared the error code for me (Previously just turning off the AC OR the battery didn't), and introduced 2 new error codes... 1 was an alert for AC loss which was easily cleared, and another was for time reset which was also easily reprogrammed.

The alarm company phoned me a couple of minutes after I fixed it all to ask if there was a problem, so I know the phone line still works too :-)

Cheers - N

Please note all comments are from my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.

petercad

113 posts

Master Geek

#906606 2-Oct-2013 19:01

If a 3 or any other number illuminates when you arm it is detecting movement on that particular zone (everyone will have a different zone list), your installer can program that zone to be a 'force' zone, ensuring you can set even when that sensor can see you

Trouble 9 is Tamper or zone wiring failure, if one zone light stays on, it'll be that zone causing the issue
Could be a faulty PIR, bad wiring in the siren, or a faulty tamper switch, or a multitude of other things.

Talkiet

4793 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#906608 2-Oct-2013 19:06

In my case, the permanently lit '3' was an issue with the smoke detector which was setup as zone three... SO yes the sensor had problems. Despite the smoke alarm not sounding and the monitoring people not being able to see it, the LED on it (the actual sensor) was lit before I rebooted, and off after.

Definitely try a battery disconnected power cycle.

Cheers - N

Please note all comments are from my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.

petercad

113 posts

Master Geek

#907335 3-Oct-2013 18:01

That indicates a lazy installer - zone 3 by default is programmed as a smoke zone
Easy to change to another zone type, makes me wonder about some 'techs'.....

Quic Broadband

Move to New Zealand's best fibre broadband service (affiliate link). Free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE. Note that to use Quic Broadband you must be comfortable with configuring your own router.

dolsen

1476 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#907399 3-Oct-2013 19:24

Talkiet: In my case, the permanently lit '3' was an issue with the smoke detector which was setup as zone three... SO yes the sensor had problems. Despite the smoke alarm not sounding and the monitoring people not being able to see it, the LED on it (the actual sensor) was lit before I rebooted, and off after.

Definitely try a battery disconnected power cycle.

Cheers - N

Could have been a latching smoke detector. They need an interruption to power to reset after activating. On our Paradox system the power for them is wired between + and pgm1 as -ve, and holding clear and enter resets them.

ryanbakernz

4 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2548098 23-Aug-2020 12:30

I have a very similar issue.

No actual trouble/TBL codes visible on the panel
Zone detectors are picking up movement fine
Battery is fine
Wired smoke alarms not working
Alarm won't arm (just gives me the rejected beeeeep)
The number 8 on the panel is permanently illuminated (although dimmer to the eye than a normal TBL indicator)
Have tried a full power off reset with main and battery disconnected
After the reset there was no change
Something to do with after either a smoke alarm being triggered, or the power being out and it hasn't reset correctly.

Any/all help appreciated :)

Daynger

435 posts

Ultimate Geek

#2548114 23-Aug-2020 12:50

Zone 8 is open.

It says panel tamper on the zone listing there, so either the panel is open or the microswitch is faulty.

You can either bridge out the zone with a resistor or program the zone out with the installers code.

ryanbakernz

4 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2548241 23-Aug-2020 15:50

Oh right! As in the central control panel up in the roof space. Yes!

I was thinking "panel" meant the keypad on the wall :)

Last time I was up in the roof space there it looked like the tech had closed the door on it with some electrical tape. It must not be registering as shut. Legend. Will see if I can fix that now <3

ryanbakernz

4 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2548244 23-Aug-2020 16:21

Daynger:

Zone 8 is open.

It says panel tamper on the zone listing there, so either the panel is open or the microswitch is faulty.

You can either bridge out the zone with a resistor or program the zone out with the installers code.

Brilliant, that's sorted now. The tech had taped around the bottom of the door instead of screwing it closed properly, so the switch to indicate that panel/zone was closed was not being pressed in. Thanks heaps :)

Daynger

435 posts

Ultimate Geek

#2549618 25-Aug-2020 18:04

ryanbakernz:

Brilliant, that's sorted now. The tech had taped around the bottom of the door instead of screwing it closed properly, so the switch to indicate that panel/zone was closed was not being pressed in. Thanks heaps :)

No worries mate, easy fix.

My invoice is in the mail.

ryanbakernz

4 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2549672 25-Aug-2020 21:41

Daynger:

No worries mate, easy fix.

My invoice is in the mail.

I made a wee payment to geekzone to thank the community <3