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  #3405178 17-Aug-2025 09:44
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Interesting - I have a GoodWe and some Enphase - both just have grid profiles that can be selected and applied, but the actual specifics of the profile are hard-baked - in fact from memory you can't even see what the numbers are, just "AS/NZ etc etc"


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  #3405182 17-Aug-2025 10:08
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We'll get our installer to do the grid voltage parameter update once the regulation change is gazetted sometime this month. The settings on our Fronius were some of the data Powerco requested confirmation of last year when we took them to task over excessive grid voltages which our installer brought up on the inverter's display and then sent to Powerco. The instructions of how to change those settings on an earlier occasion came from Fronius AU if I remember correctly so probably not owner adjustable. 

 

I imagine that once the voltage input range is widened the increase in solar customers pushing higher voltages onto their local areas will make the situation worse for lines company infrastructure and essentially just raise the bar for us all in terms of the grid voltages we're forced to work with. Time will tell I guess.





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  #3405812 20-Aug-2025 11:35
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Some sage advice on those considering solar installation from Susan Edmunds at RNZ. Basic stuff for those of us who have already gone down that road and good to see her recognition of self-consumption optimising ROI. 

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/570347/thinking-about-solar-here-are-questions-to-ask





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  #3406844 23-Aug-2025 18:56
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Has anyone challenged the refusal of a lines company to increase the feed in amount above 5 kW?

 

Despite the loosening of the voltage limits Vector has refused my installers request to increase the feed in to 10 kW (or even 8 kW) and say that nothing is changing in the foreseeable future..

 

Is there an appeal process?

 

 

 

Grrrrr


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  #3406847 23-Aug-2025 19:24
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prob:

 

Has anyone challenged the refusal of a lines company to increase the feed in amount above 5 kW?

 

Despite the loosening of the voltage limits Vector has refused my installers request to increase the feed in to 10 kW (or even 8 kW) and say that nothing is changing in the foreseeable future..

 

Is there an appeal process?

 

 

 

Grrrrr

 

 

 

 

With Meridian, They invite those with larger systems to contact them, to negotiate the selling over  5kw per phase.  That was the case in October 2023 when we negotiated our system.


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  #3406856 23-Aug-2025 19:53
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@prob:

 

Has anyone challenged the refusal of a lines company to increase the feed in amount above 5 kW?

 

Despite the loosening of the voltage limits Vector has refused my installers request to increase the feed in to 10 kW (or even 8 kW) and say that nothing is changing in the foreseeable future..

 

Is there an appeal process?

 

Grrrrr

 

 

appeals for what? the lines company set the export limit, dont believe its set in any legalisation

 

 

 

What loosening of the voltage limits has vector agreed to or changed?


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  #3406938 23-Aug-2025 21:46
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The government has mandated wider voltage limits for mains power to encourage lines companies to allow more solar feedin.

 

https://www.mysolarquotes.co.nz/blog/new-zealand-energy-news-/how-aotearoa-new-zealand-s-increased-voltage-range-impacts-solar-power/

 

 

 

Some lines companies are responding by allowing 10kW feedin by default.

https://www.auroraenergy.co.nz/news/media-releases-news/aurora-energy-to-double-household-solar-export-limits-to-10-kw

 

 


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  #3407051 24-Aug-2025 16:07
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prob:

 

The government has mandated wider voltage limits for mains power to encourage lines companies to allow more solar feedin.

 

https://www.mysolarquotes.co.nz/blog/new-zealand-energy-news-/how-aotearoa-new-zealand-s-increased-voltage-range-impacts-solar-power/

 

 

 

Some lines companies are responding by allowing 10kW feedin by default.

https://www.auroraenergy.co.nz/news/media-releases-news/aurora-energy-to-double-household-solar-export-limits-to-10-kw

 

 

 

 

Yep and when does the voltage limits come into force?

 

 

 

And just because one company has done it doesn't mean they all will. Others infrastructure may not be capable of handling the extra load at present.


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  #3407970 27-Aug-2025 22:23
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Jase2985:

 

And just because one company has done it doesn't mean they all will. Others infrastructure may not be capable of handling the extra load at present.

 

 

Or like the guy in the linked post suggests, some lines companies may use the greater tollerances to allow for a greater number of solar connections, rather than to let each existing connection export more.  I have no idea of actual numbers, but i would guess the Aurora network down south has a relatively lower level of solar installation to cope with. 


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  #3408228 28-Aug-2025 18:53
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Jase2985:

 

Yep and when does the voltage limits come into force?

 

And just because one company has done it doesn't mean they all will. Others infrastructure may not be capable of handling the extra load at present.

 

According to our installer about a month ago the changes were awaiting gazetting which was supposed to happen this month. He'll be out to change the parameters on our inverters to match the new reg's once that happens but haven't seen him yet so either it hasn't been formalised yet, or he's just too busy.

 

It will be nice to see less restrictions on our generation and export caused by high grid voltages but in the meantime August has been a bumper month for generation; just better if the inverters weren't having to fight the grid. 1,420kWh generated so far this month with over 800kWh exported (Ecotricity's portal is only reporting up until 25th so far). Looking forward to summer and wider voltage parameters.

 

 

In other news this is going in just down the road from us with a bigger 433ha/100MW solar farm not far away in the early stages. https://environment.govt.nz/assets/what-government-is-doing/Fast-track-listed/Huirangi-Solar-Farm/061.04-FTA061.04-Huirangi-Solar-Farm-Sch-2A-MfE-assessment-form-Stage-1_Redacted.pdf On what has been prime dairy land which is upsetting a few of the locals but good flat land so well suited to solar.





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  #3412670 8-Sep-2025 21:00
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Final tally for August was 1,561kWh generated with 969kWh exported. Looking forward to more days like today. Ran out of EVs to charge and with HWC already up to temp by 2:00pm. The idea of some sort of home battery storage or V2H is looking increasingly tempting.

 

 

Data includes the generation of our 5kW housetop array being interpreted as consumption as Fronius can't see the phase it's being exported through as we're still to upgrade our monitoring since adding that capacity. (We exported ~37kWh today).





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  #3412702 8-Sep-2025 23:24
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HarmLessSolutions:

 

Final tally for August was 1,561kWh generated with 969kWh exported. Looking forward to more days like today. Ran out of EVs to charge and with HWC already up to temp by 2:00pm. The idea of some sort of home battery storage or V2H is looking increasingly tempting.

 

 

You must have a decent sized installation. We have 11.8kW on the house facing almost true north with a little late pm shading. Aug PV yield was 1025.2kWh

 

The garage has an "unfortunate" orientation being slightly south of true west, and has 14 units each with a 380W micro inverter (5.32kW total).  This produced 312kWh.

 

So a total site production of 1,337kWh. Interestingly this was 11% above our modelling for the house and 91% better than the modelling for the garage (take away point is that orientation is not as important as the Niwa data would suggest).

 

Anyway we exported 789kWh for August. We have a house battery so have  purchased less than 100kWh of peak time (7am - 9pm) power over the last 3 months. Which makes a huge difference in the power bills.

 

The house has solar thermal hot water so that takes the sting out of water heating, even in the darkest part of winter it provides around 50% of the water heating with a top up overnight from low cost grid.

 

We are coming out of winter with $400 in credit and the billing cycle finishing in 3 days time will be around $40 positive.

 

We have an EV but don't drive much as we are in an urban setting and either WFH or walk/bike to work.

 

In summary, each situation is different - what works for our installation and lifestyle here in Otautahi may not work for others.





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  #3413021 9-Sep-2025 18:34
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dantheperson:

 

Jase2985:

 

And just because one company has done it doesn't mean they all will. Others infrastructure may not be capable of handling the extra load at present.

 

 

Or like the guy in the linked post suggests, some lines companies may use the greater tollerances to allow for a greater number of solar connections, rather than to let each existing connection export more.  I have no idea of actual numbers, but i would guess the Aurora network down south has a relatively lower level of solar installation to cope with. 

 

 

I have challenged the lines company's refusal to allow me to export me. Will report with outcome.


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  #3413090 9-Sep-2025 21:26
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fastbike:

 

HarmLessSolutions:

 

Final tally for August was 1,561kWh generated with 969kWh exported. Looking forward to more days like today. Ran out of EVs to charge and with HWC already up to temp by 2:00pm. The idea of some sort of home battery storage or V2H is looking increasingly tempting.

 

 

You must have a decent sized installation.......

 

 

On this property we started with 5.18kW of panels with a 5Kw SMA inverter which was upsized by 4.36kw (8x bi-facial) with an 8.2kW Fronius inverter swapped in. The whole system is mounted on truss stands on our 9mx9m shed. 

 

 

This year we've just completed a substantial reno on our house which included the addition of an additional 5.8kW of panels and reusing our surplus 5kW SMA inverter from the original setup. So, we've now got just over 15kW of panels feeding 13.2kW of inverter capacity. The only storage we have at present is charging 2 EVs and diversion to our HWC.

 

 

I can see total generation but the Fronius Smart metering system can't see the true export levels as the house array is totally exported on a second phase that the Fronius isn't reading. From the SMA logging the house array generated 565kWh in August (all exported) which accounted for 58% of our export.

 

The house has some late afternoon tree shading and the shed is tree shaded in the morning so one offsets the other. Also ongoing grid high voltage is restricting the generation by ~15% from what I can see so hopefully opening up the inverters' voltage parameters in the near future will bump our generation and export totals up a bit.

 

Previous to the reno we were with Octopus but they demand installations of >10kW (irrespective of both phases having export caps of 5kW) to go onto their Peaker plan so we changed to Ecotricity who have no restriction on total capacity. Octopus has 40c FIT on peak periods (until end Sept.)with Ecotricity being 21c on their EcoSolar plan. Downside is that Octopus has a $1.725/day vs $1.35 from Ecotricity. I'm currently logging both plans using our usage and so far Ecotricity is better but their IT is pretty ropy with customer portal outages and no account breakdown for August until mid Sept. Octopus were a class act in comparison. All I can see from Ecotricity is a $7.16 credit being due for August, with no pricing breakdown available, which is less than I was expecting. 

 

 





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  #3413101 9-Sep-2025 22:26
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HarmLessSolutions:

 

I can see total generation but the Fronius Smart metering system can't see the true export levels as the house array is totally exported on a second phase that the Fronius isn't reading. From the SMA logging the house array generated 565kWh in August (all exported) which accounted for 58% of our export.

 

 

Yeah, it becomes interesting to try to tie different systems together. The house (with 10kW hybrid inverter and 34kWh battery) is 50m away from the grid connection point - I tried to get the house inverter (which has the battery) to read a meter at the grid point so it would be able to see the garage PV (5kW) output (which fees in at the grid connection point) but it failed miserably. I think I will need to add an intermediate node to measure current at the connection point with voltage at the house so the inverter can figure out if it should be charging/exporting.

 

But we have another 4 years to run on the Meridian plan which is paying a good dividend from 17c FIT. Maybe if we loose the favourable FIT I will add another battery and find a plan that pays peak FIT for export at peak times.





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