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kangaroo13
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  #3450353 6-Jan-2026 13:12
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insane:

 

North is straight up, and in summer the roof gets full sun from 8:30ish, but in winter there's shading on the East end of it until around 11am (neighbours have massive trees that we've pruned once before). Harrison's and Zen both suggested some Tygo optimisers, but that was before I thought about adding panels on the West face to get late afternoon sun and prolong the generation duration, so if that was in play they might have suggested different inverters 

 

The West face is a two story drop, so I imagine that's extra fall protection or scaffolding so perhaps why that was not suggested originally.

 

 

I'd be thinking twice about whether the expense and effort of putting panels on a WSW facing (30 degree sloping?) roof is justified. They're not going to see much sun for a good part of the year. 

 

You're aiming for close to 10 kW of panels as I understand it. I would think the roof pitches coloured yellow would be able to accommodate that much capacity?

 

 

The WSW (#4) gets plenty of sun from what I've seen, it's also completely unobstructed. The ridgeline between #4 and #3 shades part of #1 and #3 in the late afternoon, although by then the sun is weaker. 

 

Having #1 and #2 together makes sense if the shading can be managed or avoided through optimisers or placement.

 

Yeah 10k of PV sounds optimal, but my main mission is 5kw of generation for the longest hours possible. Unless it makes more sense to get a battery to fill in the non peak periods.

 

 

 

The yellow arrow is the direction the sun moves through the day.

 

 

 

 

 

@insane - as @fastbike said - the NIWA SolarView tool is very useful.  Free for non-commercial use.

 

I've made up a an Excel workbook that calculates solar collection, and plots the daily profiles for each month, based upon the NIWA data.  It is currently configured to up to 3 faces, in an arbitrary location in Christchurch.  You could easily add additional faces if needed (though your 1 & 2 can be treated as one face, ignoring shade from local trees etc., which the NIWA tool cannot assess anyway).

 

You need to go to the NIWA SolarView website and generate tables for the location, facing and tilt of your panels, then cut/paste the 'mhr'  data into the relevant sheets.   This will help you assess whether investing in panels on the WSW face is worth it, vs - for example, squeezing more panels on the other faces, or opting for higher output (more expensive) panels on those faces.  Take particular note of the winter performance.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zGh3STUEOO_yqriGtf0kd31AbZ-Mxl-L/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=111583397876606779406&rtpof=true&sd=true

 

(this was generated in Excel, but may not work perfectly in Google Sheets - PM me if you want a direct copy of the XLS file)


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  #3450370 6-Jan-2026 14:23
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dantheperson:

 

fastbike:

 

Edit: we installed a battery in mid March so were able to arbitrage power usage through the winter, charging the battery after midnight and using that power during the day. We have just doubled the battery capacity and now have a gross capacity of 68kWh, although we scale it between 15 and 80% so we have 48kWh of usable capacity. Running the battery this way means it will last for decades.

 

 

Is there a post/thread with details of your battery install?  I looked at the Dali emulator to connect up to the fronius hybrid interter, and the number of components you needed to source and wire just seemed a bit much for my electrical skills, then there was the question of how to get it signed off so it's not a risk to house contents should something go wrong.  So now i'm leaning towards 48V with it's own inverter.  Slightly less efficient but easy to mix and match and install... though i appreciate your argument that HV batteries give placement flexibility, though i could place 48V batteries with a standalone inverter in an outside shed and just run AC to the house.   I just don't know why HV batteries are so expensive when it's just a different configuration of cells parallel vs serial.  Anyway first project is to replace the gas boiler with a heatpump before i get into batteries.

 

 

The best place to find out more is the github repo - there is a wiki and discussion board there. And Dala also makes his Discord server available for a small monthly fee, there is a lot of active development still under way.

 

Regarding compliance there is a sub thread dedicated to NZ regs and what needs to be done to get a CoC.





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  #3450410 6-Jan-2026 16:43
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fastbike:

 

Regarding compliance there is a sub thread dedicated to NZ regs and what needs to be done to get a CoC.

 

 

Confirm thats on the discord?


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  #3450447 6-Jan-2026 19:47
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Interesting, was just on Vectors website looking for something else and found this:

 

"Voltage operating range

 

The allowable voltage operating range at the customer point of connection has been expanded to 230V +/- 10%"

 

First ive heard of it.

 

"As such we recommend that all existing installations update their voltage settings to ASNZS4777.2:2020  ‘Australia A’"

 

"We are in the process of updating our standards to reflect these changes"

 

 

 

But thats good to know that, that setting can be changed in the inverter now.


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  #3450448 6-Jan-2026 19:52
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Also this on vector pushing back on a hard 10kW export limit, and wanting a flexible one

 

https://blob-static.vector.co.nz/blob/vector/media/vector-2025/maximising-benefits-from-local-generation_ea.pdf 


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  #3450472 6-Jan-2026 22:36
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Jase2985:

 

"As such we recommend that all existing installations update their voltage settings to ASNZS4777.2:2020  ‘Australia A’"

 

"We are in the process of updating our standards to reflect these changes"

 

 

 

But thats good to know that, that setting can be changed in the inverter now.

 

 

 

 

Oh good find.  The link for those interested: https://www.vector.co.nz/developers/electricity/distributed-generation/10kw-or-less


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  #3450473 6-Jan-2026 22:43
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Jase2985:

 

Also this on vector pushing back on a hard 10kW export limit, and wanting a flexible one

 

https://blob-static.vector.co.nz/blob/vector/media/vector-2025/maximising-benefits-from-local-generation_ea.pdf 

 

That is Vector's submission to last November's EA discussion forum: https://www.ea.govt.nz/documents/8769/Vector_vu7Ek7f.pdf





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  #3450729 8-Jan-2026 11:59
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HarmLessSolutions:

 

Jase2985:

 

Also this on vector pushing back on a hard 10kW export limit, and wanting a flexible one

 

https://blob-static.vector.co.nz/blob/vector/media/vector-2025/maximising-benefits-from-local-generation_ea.pdf 

 

That is Vector's submission to last November's EA discussion forum: https://www.ea.govt.nz/documents/8769/Vector_vu7Ek7f.pdf

 

 

 

 

This makes for an interesting read.

 

Generally, their argument for applying flexible limits are reasonable, HOWEVER:

 

     

  1. they make no commitment to invest in increasing the local distribution network to increase the export opportunities.  I.e. they could just leave distribution network capacity as-is, and as more people install solar, simply drop the export limits for everyone.  We could end up with a situation where export limits drop below the current 5kW limit (this specific situation could/should be guarded against by writing it into the regulations).  There needs to be some obligation on distribution companies to invest in the distribution networks as solar uptake increases.
  2. they say they would need more time to implement flexible limits.  How much time?   Is this a stalling tactic?

 

Furthermore, in relation to Q19:

 

"What are your views on the Authority’s estimate of costs of lost benefits from a 5kW export limit? "

 

their response includes:

 

"… the estimated figure of $4.23 million is overstated and likely significantly less.

 

 It is reasonable to expect that someone would not invest in DG systems exceeding the export limit without an intended use for the excess generation."

 

No - this is not a "reasonable" expectation.  The blindingly obvious counter-example is system sizing for winter requirements, leading to excess generation in summer.  Almost everyone does this already.  For example - my system has 6.3kW of panels, and I have significant clipping in summer given the 5kW limit.


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  #3452178 12-Jan-2026 10:30
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July-Dec 2025 Stats: (Upgrade commissioned in June)

 

 

 

System Size (kW): 15.35
Inverter Size (kW): 8.2 + 5.0

 

 

 

Total Consumption (kW/h): 5957.43
Energy From Grid (kW/h): 2295.54

 

 

 

Total Production (kW/h): 9324.03
Energy to Grid (kW/h): 5662.14

 

 

 


Consumed Directly (kW/h): 3661.89
Own Consumption %: 39.27
Self Sufficiency %: 61.47

 

 

 

Jul-Dec 2025 - 5 kW phase alone (part of above data).

 

System Size (kW): 5.81
Inverter Size (kW): 5.0

 

 

 

Total Consumption (kW/h): 0
Energy From Grid (kW/h): 0

 

 

 


Total Production (kW/h): 3492.33
Energy to Grid (kW/h): 3492.33

 

 

 


Consumed Directly (kW/h): 0
Own Consumption %: 0
Self Sufficiency %: n/a





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  #3452261 12-Jan-2026 14:04
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System Size (kW): 6.88
Inverter Size (kW): 5.0

 

Total Consumption (kWh): 6873
Energy From Grid (kWh): 3893

 

Total Production (kWh): 9985
Energy to Grid (kWh): 7004

 

Consumed Directly (kWh): 2981
Own Consumption %: 29.8
Self Sufficiency %: 43.4


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  #3457078 29-Jan-2026 23:51
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Just got a system commissioned, inspector didn't come yet.

 

 

 

System Size: 11.44kW

 

Inverter Size: 10.00kW

 

 

 

Battery: 9.0kW.

 

Wanted more battery but the prices are pretty insane.


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  #3457547 1-Feb-2026 05:52
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Sinuation:

 

Just got a system commissioned, inspector didn't come yet.

 

 

 

System Size: 11.44kW

 

Inverter Size: 10.00kW

 

 

 

Battery: 9.0kW.

 

Wanted more battery but the prices are pretty insane.

 

 

Stop teasing, what sort of gear was installed ? How much did you pay ?





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  #3457784 1-Feb-2026 19:21
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Out of interest, has anyone paid attention to the "grade" of their solar panels?  I'm curious to know if anyone is supplied with anything other than A-grade.





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  #3457803 1-Feb-2026 21:58
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fastbike:

 

Sinuation:

 

Just got a system commissioned, inspector didn't come yet.

 

 

 

System Size: 11.44kW

 

Inverter Size: 10.00kW

 

 

 

Battery: 9.0kW.

 

Wanted more battery but the prices are pretty insane.

 

 

Stop teasing, what sort of gear was installed ? How much did you pay ?

 

 

 

 

Hah fair enough.

 

 

 

Installed near East Auckland with Planet Electrical.

 


Paid about 30,000, 1/3rd was just the battery.

 

SigEnergy system with a gateway, Trina Vertex S+ solar panels 440W.


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  #3457834 2-Feb-2026 09:08
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MadEngineer:

 

Out of interest, has anyone paid attention to the "grade" of their solar panels?  I'm curious to know if anyone is supplied with anything other than A-grade.

 

 

If you don't have a 25 year warranty them maybe - but not seen anybody advertising short life panels





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