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#1824746 18-Jul-2017 20:23

The shower area is tiled floor and 3 walls and bigger than your average shower. I dont have to clean it all at once but I would like to do it in more than 12-15 minute bursts between charges!

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#1824824 18-Jul-2017 22:13

A cordless drill is not made to have the trigger down for extended periods of time. If i was you I would get a cheap and cheerful chorded drills. $50 bucks with a 2 year warranty (keept your reciept) and if you ever need to drill anything including masonry you are sorted, but most importantly it will do your core job of cleaning the tiles better than any cordless drill.

The Ozito has a keyless chuck and variable speed controller - $44.90 from Bunnings. I have this model, it was a replacement of another Ozito that laste 5+ years, for the amount I use it $6 a year - pefect. I also have an 18V Lithium Ion cordless drill, fantastic for drilling, would not use it with a cleaning disk on it.

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#1824828 18-Jul-2017 22:20

@itxtme Do you mean this hammer drill https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ozito-13mm-710w-corded-hammer-drill_p00316326

or this one https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ozito-280w-10mm-corded-drill-driver_p00196391

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#1824830 18-Jul-2017 22:24

Does having that extra handle at the business end make it easier to hold for extended periods?

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#1824840 18-Jul-2017 22:34

itxtme makes some good points.

With regard to the extra handle, a cleaning disk will catch on the edge and exert a fair bit of torque making it hard to hold the drill with one hand. With drill weight, and fighting to hold the disk at the right angle, one can envisage a sore wrist in fairly short order. So, yes, a second handle would be very helpful for your intended use in my opinion.

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#1824865 19-Jul-2017 01:31

Yes that first one is the one I have (and would suggest). As far as hammer drilling goes its ho hum but drilling 10mm holes with a decent drill bit it will get the job done. The hammer drill is a function that red witch on the top enables it, you would not use this while cleaning. The speed controller is on the trigger (a little dial) and that is another added bonus of this drill over a cordless (or that second one linked) for what you want, as their speed control is related to how hard you pull it in.

Like you said, you get what you pay for, and so if you used this for hours a day I wouldn't suggest it, but for occasional use like you have need it does the business.

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#1825032 19-Jul-2017 11:16

Thanks @itxtme.

Hope our tiny wee Bunnings has it in stock.

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#1825069 19-Jul-2017 12:04

richms:
The previous ones (and I assume the non powerxhcange ones) are just OEM gear that they order from whoever makes them in the right color injection molding with the right logo on it.

Current Ozito drills are Einhell, which is a budget German brand (but manufactured in China, like most of the other drills will be as well). They're actually quite decent for the price. Power X-Change is direct from Einhell, just with the name changed.

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#1825112 19-Jul-2017 12:39

I highly recommend the ozito power X range. I started with this I got it when it was on sale $140ish

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ozito-power-x-change-18v-cordless-drill-driver-and-impact-drill-2-piece_p06290524

Works very well. My brother who is a builder thought highly of it ESP regarding the price. The impact drill will drive screws through rimu no problem.

I have since got the sabre saw which worked great once I put a decent blade on it, The usb charger, the chainsaw works okay but needs more power, the mini vacuum which is okay (my 3 year old loves it).

The batteries hold charge well the charge quickly and the 1.5 ah one lasts ages in the drill.

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#1825114 19-Jul-2017 12:45

blackjack17: The batteries hold charge well the charge quickly and the 1.5 ah one lasts ages in the drill.

I dismantled the charger on my Einhell a while back and was pleasantly surprised to see they've actually got proper charge control circuitry in there, they don't just trickle current into it like some other LiIon chargers I've seen. Including one where the battery pack ended up looking more like a rugby ball than a battery, I got that one out of the house pretty quickly after I noticed it.

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#1825170 19-Jul-2017 13:31

I would also recommend you get a drill with a 13mm chuck.

Most consumer cordless drills and cheap power drills only have a 10mm chuck, which is too small for may attachments, such as circular sanders, hole saw arbors etc.

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#1825369 19-Jul-2017 16:34

neb:
blackjack17: The batteries hold charge well the charge quickly and the 1.5 ah one lasts ages in the drill.
I dismantled the charger on my Einhell a while back and was pleasantly surprised to see they've actually got proper charge control circuitry in there, they don't just trickle current into it like some other LiIon chargers I've seen. Including one where the battery pack ended up looking more like a rugby ball than a battery, I got that one out of the house pretty quickly after I noticed it.

I have a cheap Black&Decker Matrix 18V Li drill. Be interested to know what the charger smarts is, but the manual says you can just leave a battery in it plugged in so I do - sits there for weeks sometimes. All I can say is after a couple of years of abuse, the batteries still seem to go for ever and hold charge for ever. Really pleasantly surprised.

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#1825537 19-Jul-2017 21:49

kiwifidget:

Does having that extra handle at the business end make it easier to hold for extended periods?

Not necessarily - but helps hold things steady - and if you're drilling something with a reasonably grunty drill and the bit sticks, if you're holding it with one hand on the grip only, it'll twist right out of your hand.

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#1825544 19-Jul-2017 22:03

One of my Milwaukee 18V 4AH batteries pooped itself - out of warranty (IIRC 2 year for battery / 5 year for tools). This happens. Had probably been dropped many times from great height onto concrete, whatever. Have 3 other of that capacity, and a couple of little ones - all seem as good as new after about 5 years use.

Despite having 4AH batteries, except for high current draw tools (angle grinder, high torque rattle gun etc) I prefer the small batteries (1.5AH) as they're very light. 18V impact driver with 1.5 AH battery is about the same size as a 10.8v Dewalt I had, but has about double the driving capacity for occasions when I need it. Not criticising Dewalt which are great - more that IMO 18v tools from Milwaulkee, Dewalt, Makita seem to be a "default" for trade use, and a "sweet spot" for performance, range, price etc.

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#1825574 19-Jul-2017 23:10

kryptonjohn:
I have a cheap Black&Decker Matrix 18V Li drill. Be interested to know what the charger smarts is,

If you can post photos of the charger circuitry, there are enough geeks on here to tell you whether it's got a decent charge controller or not.

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