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  #3032326 5-Feb-2023 22:31
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I went the Dewalt route, but did some research into the brands before entering the ecosystem.

 

I was extremely interested in Milwaukee's M12 line, for it's light weight and compact size. Ultimately I came to the conclusion that Milwaukee gear is really expensive in NZ, and I couldn't justify the cost for DIY use.

 

 

 

Milwaukee has a reputation of selling some of the best battery on the market. Compared to dewalt, it has a wider range of tool's, and many specialist tools that would suit electricians & plumbers.

 

Milwaukee has stuck fairly rigidly with it's 12v & 18v lines, with high power needs handled with specially marked "High output" 18v batteries.

 

This differs from dewalt (which has it's 15 cell flexvolt packs and 54v tools to take advantage of these cells, while maintain compatibility with 18v tools (by series / paradell switching 3 string's).

 

This also differs from makita, which either uses duel 18v packs in it's higher drain tools, or has a recently introduced 40v Max (36v nominal) line.

 

 

 

For me the fact that Milwaukee isn't carried by either of the large DIY hardware stores (Bunnings/miter 10) also counted against them.

 

I follow a dewalt tool enthusiast page. Relatively common for people their to run two battery systems, using dewalt for bigger tool's, and using Milwaukee's M12 for smaller stuff (and to fill gaps in the dewalt lineup).

 

However I also entered the dewalt 12v lineup (not stocked in NZ), for my second drill, as the dewalt drill was cheaper, lighter, and more powerful than the M12 one, and the hand grip isn't super fat, so my child will be able to use that drill.

 

The Milwaukee's surge impact driver, and their assembly tool looked especially good (but Dewalt now has their own assembly tool).

 

 

 

On Makita, it is by far the most common quality tool brand in NZ, which has it's advantages. Big range of tools (i.e. 15 current of coming soon options for line trimmers/ Brushcutter), especially for carpentry.

 

Unlike the other brands, Makita serves both low end and high end users under the same brand name. Means you need to look into where each tool falls in the range (and avoid the entry-level stuff for say trade use), but this does have the advantage of, in the situation you want a pro grade drill, a mid range circular saw and say an entry level grass trimmer, that you can get both on the same battery system.

Milwaukee is owned by TTI group, and their mid range stuff is sold under the AEG brand, and their DIY stuff is sold under the Ryobi brand (batteries all incompadable with each other). Same deal with standly black and decker owned Dewalt. Dewalt is high end, Stanly fatmax (craftsman in the usa) mid range, Black and decker low end.

 

 

 

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As others have said, Makita batteries commonly fit aliexpress tools.

 

If you went the Makita route, you would need to choose between their tried and proven 18v range, and their new 40vmax range. Latter means no option to run 5 cell packs on smaller tool's, but should mean a bit more power & efficiency.

Dewalt & Milwaukee both tend to have better deals on starter packs of tools than Makita. Ultimatly this is what got me into the dewalt ecosystem. To good to be true drill / driver / flexvolt battery / charger deal on black friday a few years back, and I now have a whole tub full of black and yellow tools.

Makita has some of the cheapest (retail price) batteries on the market. $169 (bunnings) for a 5Ah, Dewalt is $204 (bunnings), and Milwaukee is $269 (placemakers). Can't comment on other brands, but new Dewalt batteries are available fairly cheap on online marketplaces, as people sell the batteries that dewalt gives away in "buy x skin and get a free battery" promo's.

 

 

 

Technofreak: I chose Milwaukee in the end. It was a close run thing. I went to buy with no real preference.In the end it was the deal that was available on the tool plus charger and batteries that swung it.

As far as I can tell both Makita and Milwaukee have an equivalent range of tools available here. The range of tools and accessories available for both makes was the main reason I had short listed both brands.

 

Just saw this. I am sure you will be happy with your purchase. some of the best tools on the market. And many of the chargers in kits also have a M12 charging bay, which opens up access to that range to tools too. Stuff like plam nailers, soldering iron's, Caulking gun etc.

 

 




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  #3032335 5-Feb-2023 23:38
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The charger I got has two ports one 18 volt and one 12 volt.

I fell sure I'd have been just as happy with Makita.

I've probably over specced (whether that be Makita or Milwaukee) for my uses but I like using good gear that's nice to use and is reliable..




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  #3032574 6-Feb-2023 20:33
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Milwaukee is what I use - its the pro brand. 

 

I have had my milwaukee drill for about 8 years now and I use it almost daily.   

 

 

 

Makita is the home/semi-pro brand. However they have a few more tools in the gardening section.    

 

 

 

 





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  #3032625 6-Feb-2023 20:53
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I am not a dedicated DIYer and a lot of this is over my head, but I inherited a range of Ryobi tools a couple of years ago and have made limited use of them. The reason I am chiming in here is because the expensive Ryobi smart charger failed and when I took it into Bunnings for repair I was informed that Ryobi is the only brand out of all of them that can't be repaired. Apparently they will only do exchanges, which I don't want and I don't have the receipt for it anyway. I have just written them a letter about this policy, which I find very out of touch in today's world which is moving to waste minimisation and right of repair. I mention it here for the benefit of anyone interested because some people may find this a relevant consideration when making a purchase decision. 

 

If I receive a response to my letter, I will post it here depending on what they say.

 

 





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  #3032626 6-Feb-2023 20:57
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Most of the namebrand tools are very good nowdays.
I don't buy housebrands.
I've got an eclectic mix, although any replacements will be probably be Makita.
Ryobi 18v tire pump, hedge trimmer, angle grinder, and 36v lawnmower.
Makita 18v brushless range - drill, impact driver, blower, demo saw, and radio.
Dewalt 12v drill and impact driver my wife prefers because they are much lighter than the Makita 18v ones.
Makita and Bosch blue screwdrivers finish up the set.

 

All these tools are lasting well.


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  #3032735 6-Feb-2023 23:11
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Rikkitic:

 

I am not a dedicated DIYer and a lot of this is over my head, but I inherited a range of Ryobi tools a couple of years ago and have made limited use of them. The reason I am chiming in here is because the expensive Ryobi smart charger failed and when I took it into Bunnings for repair I was informed that Ryobi is the only brand out of all of them that can't be repaired. Apparently they will only do exchanges, which I don't want and I don't have the receipt for it anyway. I have just written them a letter about this policy, which I find very out of touch in today's world which is moving to waste minimisation and right of repair. I mention it here for the benefit of anyone interested because some people may find this a relevant consideration when making a purchase decision. 

 

If I receive a response to my letter, I will post it here depending on what they say.

 

 

Do you really want to be paying a technician price for an out of warranty repair on something cheap like a charger? The only charger they make that I would even entertain the idea of repair on is the 6 bay one, and thats only because I would want them to match and if I replace my old one with a new one, then they will not match.

 

They are legally required to test and tag them which has another cost on top of the repair.





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  #3032749 7-Feb-2023 03:51
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I also came down to choosing between Makita & Milwaukee. My decision maker between the 2 came from asking the retail staff at several outlets "Which one of these two brands do you see returned more often?" Every single reply was "Milwaukee, we get so many warranty claims" so I bought Makita. I've thrashed & bashed all the tools I bought, the only failure being a plastic clip on the backpack vacuum cleaner.




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  #3032768 7-Feb-2023 10:04
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richms:

 

Do you really want to be paying a technician price for an out of warranty repair on something cheap like a charger?

 

 

Yes I do. I find your response surprisingly unintelligent. You seem to have missed the parts in my post about my use case (infrequent consumer DIY) and desire not to irresponsibly add to the waste mountain choking our planet. Devices need to be repairable and that is the trend in other parts of the world and eventually it will also be here. The tone of your post sounds a lot like those audiophile snobs boasting about the quality of their sooper dooper sound systems at frequencies no-one can hear anyway. If you are a professional user of these tools who needs to recharge batteries a dozen times a day then you may have a point. But that still does not justify throwing things away that can be fixed. And if you are just into one-upmanship pissing contests then you need to rethink your values.

 

 

 

 





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  #3032789 7-Feb-2023 10:52
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I've had great performance over a long period of time with akita tools.  Recently I've started buying into the 40v range.  Fantastic tools. I don't have the 40v impact driver (yet) but I imagine it's the ducks nuts. 





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