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Ramjet99
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  #1825296 19-Jul-2017 15:06
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Wow $900K plus land? I had no idea houses were so expensive to build. Sobering post.




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  #1825298 19-Jul-2017 15:09
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Ramjet99:

 

Wow $900K plus land? I had no idea houses were so expensive to build. Sobering post.

 

 

Counterpoint. Rolleston, 210m2 (including 70m2 garage), basic single story construction with middle of the range specs. $360k+land (+25k driveways and paths and landscaping, and +$10k on owner supplied appliances (oven/cooktop/dishwasher etc)

 

You can spend as much as you want but I guarantee there's no need to spend $900k on a reasonable sized build.

 

 

 

Cheers - N

 

 





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  #1825335 19-Jul-2017 15:37
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yumcimil:

 

mattwnz:

 

Insanekiwi:

 

yumcimil:

 

We've been trying to do some renovations - dividing existing house into two, and redoing each half a bit. Costs are *very* high, courtesy of the post-Kaikoura quake rebuild. Estimate for us to extend by ~ 50m^2, and reorganise the interior was $780,000, plus architect's fees and consents.

 

Our requested budget was $350,000, so we're quite angry with the architect, who has run us $25,000 and counting.

 

 

 

 

That is crazy...$780k for reno! The architect must gone crazy or been completely out of market for a while. Our quote was about 15% higher than expected, but probably due to inflation over one year for construction has been that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Inflation is only around 2% at the moment. So someone is creaming it. 

 

 

Well, the reason we were so hacked off is that there had been a lot of discussion from us saying "Uh, won't that be really expensive?", with the reply of "no, no, it's surprisingly cheap"

 

 

 

 

I would be pretty hacked off too if the builder's quote was that much. Did you look for different quotes / employ a quantity surveyor to see if the quote is appropriate?

 

Unfortunately, $1700/m2 is something I haven't heard of in Wellington. Lowest I have seen recently is $2500/m2 with a reasonable quality on a 250m2 house + land. That person did a lot of work on buying supplies when things were on great sale, stored it at their parents house for > 6 months etc. 

 

I couldn't believe how expensive a reasonable house would be to meet a code of compliance. Obviously for me it's the hill that is causing the price to go up with the foundation but I guess that's the price you pay for the view...

 

No builder recommendation so far means that this post hasn't been successful so far to have someone to give me a quote again! :(

 

 




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  #1825354 19-Jul-2017 16:22
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Insanekiwi:

 

yumcimil:

 

mattwnz:

 

Insanekiwi:

 

yumcimil:

 

We've been trying to do some renovations - dividing existing house into two, and redoing each half a bit. Costs are *very* high, courtesy of the post-Kaikoura quake rebuild. Estimate for us to extend by ~ 50m^2, and reorganise the interior was $780,000, plus architect's fees and consents.

 

Our requested budget was $350,000, so we're quite angry with the architect, who has run us $25,000 and counting.

 

 

 

 

That is crazy...$780k for reno! The architect must gone crazy or been completely out of market for a while. Our quote was about 15% higher than expected, but probably due to inflation over one year for construction has been that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Inflation is only around 2% at the moment. So someone is creaming it. 

 

 

Well, the reason we were so hacked off is that there had been a lot of discussion from us saying "Uh, won't that be really expensive?", with the reply of "no, no, it's surprisingly cheap"

 

 

 

 

I would be pretty hacked off too if the builder's quote was that much. Did you look for different quotes / employ a quantity surveyor to see if the quote is appropriate?

 

Unfortunately, $1700/m2 is something I haven't heard of in Wellington. Lowest I have seen recently is $2500/m2 with a reasonable quality on a 250m2 house + land. That person did a lot of work on buying supplies when things were on great sale, stored it at their parents house for > 6 months etc. 

 

I couldn't believe how expensive a reasonable house would be to meet a code of compliance. Obviously for me it's the hill that is causing the price to go up with the foundation but I guess that's the price you pay for the view...

 

No builder recommendation so far means that this post hasn't been successful so far to have someone to give me a quote again! :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

My brother had an architecturally designed 260+ sqm house about 18 months  ago in the Wairarapa(which is in the Wellington region). Although they didn't tell me the exact figures, I believe it worked out at about $1800 per sqm. I believe they got 4 quotes, and some were significantly more. I designed it for them, and it was clad in vertical colour steel and cedar. It was quite a simple structure, and 2.4 and 2.7 m ceilings, and used trusses. They did buy in some things themselves, but I didn't think building in the wairarapa would be cheaper than Wellington city itself. Especially as Wellington has additional competition in the building supplies market, like Bunnings. 

 

 

 

I am not sure how close quality surveyors figure are, compared to competitive quotes. I have had some done and they have been well out, where the builders quotes were a lot lower.  They will want to be conservative, so it is likely that it will be a lot higher than a competitive quote.

 

 

 

I would suggest getting a quote from some builders out in the hutt, as the builders out there may have lower overheads compared to one based in the city


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  #1825543 19-Jul-2017 22:01
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mattwnz:

 

Insanekiwi:

 

yumcimil:

 

mattwnz:

 

Insanekiwi:

 

yumcimil:

 

We've been trying to do some renovations - dividing existing house into two, and redoing each half a bit. Costs are *very* high, courtesy of the post-Kaikoura quake rebuild. Estimate for us to extend by ~ 50m^2, and reorganise the interior was $780,000, plus architect's fees and consents.

 

Our requested budget was $350,000, so we're quite angry with the architect, who has run us $25,000 and counting.

 

 

 

 

That is crazy...$780k for reno! The architect must gone crazy or been completely out of market for a while. Our quote was about 15% higher than expected, but probably due to inflation over one year for construction has been that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Inflation is only around 2% at the moment. So someone is creaming it. 

 

 

Well, the reason we were so hacked off is that there had been a lot of discussion from us saying "Uh, won't that be really expensive?", with the reply of "no, no, it's surprisingly cheap"

 

 

 

 

I would be pretty hacked off too if the builder's quote was that much. Did you look for different quotes / employ a quantity surveyor to see if the quote is appropriate?

 

Unfortunately, $1700/m2 is something I haven't heard of in Wellington. Lowest I have seen recently is $2500/m2 with a reasonable quality on a 250m2 house + land. That person did a lot of work on buying supplies when things were on great sale, stored it at their parents house for > 6 months etc. 

 

I couldn't believe how expensive a reasonable house would be to meet a code of compliance. Obviously for me it's the hill that is causing the price to go up with the foundation but I guess that's the price you pay for the view...

 

No builder recommendation so far means that this post hasn't been successful so far to have someone to give me a quote again! :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

My brother had an architecturally designed 260+ sqm house about 18 months  ago in the Wairarapa(which is in the Wellington region). Although they didn't tell me the exact figures, I believe it worked out at about $1800 per sqm. I believe they got 4 quotes, and some were significantly more. I designed it for them, and it was clad in vertical colour steel and cedar. It was quite a simple structure, and 2.4 and 2.7 m ceilings, and used trusses. They did buy in some things themselves, but I didn't think building in the wairarapa would be cheaper than Wellington city itself. Especially as Wellington has additional competition in the building supplies market, like Bunnings. 

 

 

 

I am not sure how close quality surveyors figure are, compared to competitive quotes. I have had some done and they have been well out, where the builders quotes were a lot lower.  They will want to be conservative, so it is likely that it will be a lot higher than a competitive quote.

 

 

 

I would suggest getting a quote from some builders out in the hutt, as the builders out there may have lower overheads compared to one based in the city

 

 

 

 

That sounds like a great job - although now; it would probably cost around $2070/m2 but still good deal none the less especially for an architecturally designed house. I was looking at similar cladding options; colorsteel/eurostyle all around including the roof with some cedar/timber accents. I believe our house is also reasonably simple to construct, but it's the foundation that will cost a bit. 

 

Thanks for the recommendations; so far I only have received a quote from David Reid (Waikanae based). Are you an architect yourself?


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  #1825564 19-Jul-2017 22:41
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Two residential building companies I know off are Made Construction (they did our kitchen and bathroom) and Northern Construction (mate works thete). I've been inside renos and new builds by both and they are good builders. They're busy as right now but all good ones are. Jayden at Made and Jonny at Northern are the contacts, Google them.

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