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#1278278 7-Apr-2015 12:22

NonprayingMantis:

for most people (i.e. not geekzone users) the hassle of actually implementing Unotelly etc is pretty signficant. It's simply too much trouble to be worth bothering with. The last thing they want to do is start messing around with DNS in their router or devices.

Global mode makes smart DNS available to the masses. I would think if Sky etc got Global mode shut down, they would be fine with letting people use unotelly etc. The people who use global mode are the kind who would probably pay for NZ Netflix, Lightbox, Sky etc if they couldn't get Netflix USA.
The people who Unotelly that are the kind of people who would probably just pirate if they couldn't get Netflix USA, so there is little benefit to shutting it down, even if they could, which they can't/

I would disagree, I'm far from knowledgeable with regards to detailed settings on routers etc but it probably took me longer to read about it than to actually do it. I was dreading getting the chromecast to play ball but was no issue

Since setting up my Spark supplied modem and spending a short while guiding my 9yo through the region switching via dynamo she is watching programs from all over the Netflix catalogue. I know I could do the same and have my non techo 65yo parents achieve similar results. Everyone knows someone that will help them set it up if the going gets too tough

I watched a movie via Netflix Canada a couple of days ago, "Let's Be Cops" ironically i saw it advertised yesterday on Sky as a upcoming PPV Box Office title, yes i can see how Sky might not like this, why am i going to pay Sky for the privilege when for the same price i can have a month of unlimited Netflix?!

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#1278283 7-Apr-2015 12:39

NonprayingMantis:
for most people (i.e. not geekzone users) the hassle of actually implementing Unotelly etc is pretty signficant. It's simply too much trouble to be worth bothering with. The last thing they want to do is start messing around with DNS in their router or devices.

Global mode makes smart DNS available to the masses. I would think if Sky etc got Global mode shut down, they would be fine with letting people use unotelly etc. The people who use global mode are the kind who would probably pay for NZ Netflix, Lightbox, Sky etc if they couldn't get Netflix USA.
The people who Unotelly that are the kind of people who would probably just pirate if they couldn't get Netflix USA, so there is little benefit to shutting it down, even if they could, which they can't/

Sorry but you are completely wrong. You are so completely wrong that I had to answer this before reading the other comments following yours, so someone else may have already pointed it out. First, when I signed up to Unotelly, they provided extremely detailed, step-by-step, understandable even by those who move their lips when they read, instructions on how to change DNS settings for every device and platform since Windows 95 on the 486. Second, every hopeless computer illiterate in the country has a friend on call to help with exactly this sort of thing. I know because I have been that friend for many. Third, technology does not stand still. I remember ads on TV a few years ago selling music CD copying services to the uninitiated. Within a year prices of writable CD drives had plummeted and soon they were a standard part of every new PC. At the same time software for ripping tunes to different formats became widely available and user-friendly and today every grandmother who can turn on a computer can copy an audio disk, not that anyone ever does any more. If global mode gets shut down, not that there is a snowball's chance on Venus of that ever happening, proxy services that even John Key can hammer a nail into will quickly appear. Being tech-savvy is only a very temporary advantage.

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#1278286 7-Apr-2015 12:53

shk292:
NonprayingMantis:
Rikkitic:
dafman: Slightly OT, but, now I have signed to Netflix in NZ, what' the best/fast/least intrusive VPN service to use - looking to pay around $5 per month

So far I'm happy with Unotelly. Back on topic, I keep seeing comments about media companies paying for exclusivity and not getting it because of geo-block bypassing. What hasn't been specifically mentioned so far is that these companies want to preserve their exclusivity by cutting everyone off from a whole lot of other content which the companies here have NOT paid exclusive rights for. Just because TV2 wants to prevent me from seeing some teenage American high school series they have paid for that doesn't interest me anyway, does not mean they should be able to block access to other sites, like BBC or Arte, in which they have no investment at all. If this isn't greed-driven overkill, I don't know what is.

pretty sure Lightbox, Sky, TVNZ etc all buy rights to BBC shows for NZ.

A shame they don't actually broadcast many of them then. Probably the biggest change in viewing habits in my house since switching from Sky to freeview/iplayer/Netflix is that my kids watch quality TV instead of the unmitigated stream of cr@p that passes for kids' TV on Sky. Oh, and I torrent virtually nothing

I agree entirely. The BBC stuff available for my 10 year old son is mindboggling and he is LOVING it. Quality, quality, quality and he is lapping it up. NZ TV companies should be ashamed of themselves. And to top it off, my wife and I are watching a lot of quality stuff ourselves and enjoying every minute of it. Interestingly, non of it is ever shown over here by that pathetic TVNZ and mediaworks because they seem to unable to pull their heads out of cheap mindless gutter TV.

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#1278423 7-Apr-2015 15:08

I just saw a copy of the letter they sent
I must say it is *hilarious*

Am thinking of writing to the law firm involved and asking to be pre-emptively added to their mailing list as we may start gauging demand for a globalmode service amongst our subscribers.

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Rikkitic

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#1278430 7-Apr-2015 15:18

Someone here must be friends with an MP or journalist outside the media coven. I would really like to see the following Parliamentary survey carried out, especially amongst MPs who belong to the government parties:

Do you use Global Mode or any other legal means of bypassing Geographical blocking to view overseas video streaming sites? Are you a paid subscriber to any of these sites?

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NonprayingMantis

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#1278435 7-Apr-2015 15:28

DaveB:
shk292:
NonprayingMantis:
Rikkitic:
dafman: Slightly OT, but, now I have signed to Netflix in NZ, what' the best/fast/least intrusive VPN service to use - looking to pay around $5 per month

So far I'm happy with Unotelly. Back on topic, I keep seeing comments about media companies paying for exclusivity and not getting it because of geo-block bypassing. What hasn't been specifically mentioned so far is that these companies want to preserve their exclusivity by cutting everyone off from a whole lot of other content which the companies here have NOT paid exclusive rights for. Just because TV2 wants to prevent me from seeing some teenage American high school series they have paid for that doesn't interest me anyway, does not mean they should be able to block access to other sites, like BBC or Arte, in which they have no investment at all. If this isn't greed-driven overkill, I don't know what is.

pretty sure Lightbox, Sky, TVNZ etc all buy rights to BBC shows for NZ.

A shame they don't actually broadcast many of them then. Probably the biggest change in viewing habits in my house since switching from Sky to freeview/iplayer/Netflix is that my kids watch quality TV instead of the unmitigated stream of cr@p that passes for kids' TV on Sky. Oh, and I torrent virtually nothing

I agree entirely. The BBC stuff available for my 10 year old son is mindboggling and he is LOVING it. Quality, quality, quality and he is lapping it up. NZ TV companies should be ashamed of themselves. And to top it off, my wife and I are watching a lot of quality stuff ourselves and enjoying every minute of it. Interestingly, non of it is ever shown over here by that pathetic TVNZ and mediaworks because they seem to unable to pull their heads out of cheap mindless gutter TV.

what sort of shows is he watching?

NonprayingMantis

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#1278436 7-Apr-2015 15:28

raytaylor: I just saw a copy of the letter they sent
I must say it is *hilarious* Am thinking of writing to the law firm involved and asking to be pre-emptively added to their mailing list as we may start gauging demand for a globalmode service amongst our subscribers.

can you post it? or is it considered confidential?

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raytaylor

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#1278465 7-Apr-2015 15:54

Its not considered confidential, but I would probably prefer it if that isp posts it because it mentions their name alot.

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DaveB

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#1278487 7-Apr-2015 16:38

NonprayingMantis:
DaveB:
shk292:
NonprayingMantis:
Rikkitic:
dafman: Slightly OT, but, now I have signed to Netflix in NZ, what' the best/fast/least intrusive VPN service to use - looking to pay around $5 per month

So far I'm happy with Unotelly. Back on topic, I keep seeing comments about media companies paying for exclusivity and not getting it because of geo-block bypassing. What hasn't been specifically mentioned so far is that these companies want to preserve their exclusivity by cutting everyone off from a whole lot of other content which the companies here have NOT paid exclusive rights for. Just because TV2 wants to prevent me from seeing some teenage American high school series they have paid for that doesn't interest me anyway, does not mean they should be able to block access to other sites, like BBC or Arte, in which they have no investment at all. If this isn't greed-driven overkill, I don't know what is.

pretty sure Lightbox, Sky, TVNZ etc all buy rights to BBC shows for NZ.

A shame they don't actually broadcast many of them then. Probably the biggest change in viewing habits in my house since switching from Sky to freeview/iplayer/Netflix is that my kids watch quality TV instead of the unmitigated stream of cr@p that passes for kids' TV on Sky. Oh, and I torrent virtually nothing

I agree entirely. The BBC stuff available for my 10 year old son is mindboggling and he is LOVING it. Quality, quality, quality and he is lapping it up. NZ TV companies should be ashamed of themselves. And to top it off, my wife and I are watching a lot of quality stuff ourselves and enjoying every minute of it. Interestingly, non of it is ever shown over here by that pathetic TVNZ and mediaworks because they seem to unable to pull their heads out of cheap mindless gutter TV.

what sort of shows is he watching?

There have been lots, but his particular favourites are "Our School", Blue Peter and Absolute Genius. His favourite by far is Star Gazing Live which is about the universe. NZ needs to learn that our kids ARE keen for knowledge and if it dished up, they will devour it.

NonprayingMantis

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#1278489 7-Apr-2015 16:42

DaveB:
NonprayingMantis:
DaveB:
shk292:
NonprayingMantis:
Rikkitic:
dafman: Slightly OT, but, now I have signed to Netflix in NZ, what' the best/fast/least intrusive VPN service to use - looking to pay around $5 per month

So far I'm happy with Unotelly. Back on topic, I keep seeing comments about media companies paying for exclusivity and not getting it because of geo-block bypassing. What hasn't been specifically mentioned so far is that these companies want to preserve their exclusivity by cutting everyone off from a whole lot of other content which the companies here have NOT paid exclusive rights for. Just because TV2 wants to prevent me from seeing some teenage American high school series they have paid for that doesn't interest me anyway, does not mean they should be able to block access to other sites, like BBC or Arte, in which they have no investment at all. If this isn't greed-driven overkill, I don't know what is.

pretty sure Lightbox, Sky, TVNZ etc all buy rights to BBC shows for NZ.

A shame they don't actually broadcast many of them then. Probably the biggest change in viewing habits in my house since switching from Sky to freeview/iplayer/Netflix is that my kids watch quality TV instead of the unmitigated stream of cr@p that passes for kids' TV on Sky. Oh, and I torrent virtually nothing

I agree entirely. The BBC stuff available for my 10 year old son is mindboggling and he is LOVING it. Quality, quality, quality and he is lapping it up. NZ TV companies should be ashamed of themselves. And to top it off, my wife and I are watching a lot of quality stuff ourselves and enjoying every minute of it. Interestingly, non of it is ever shown over here by that pathetic TVNZ and mediaworks because they seem to unable to pull their heads out of cheap mindless gutter TV.

what sort of shows is he watching?

There have been lots, but his particular favourites are "Our School", Blue Peter and Absolute Genius. His favourite by far is Star Gazing Live which is about the universe. NZ needs to learn that our kids ARE keen for knowledge and if it dished up, they will devour it.

Blue Peter still going? wow. such memories...

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#1278490 7-Apr-2015 16:42

Rikkitic: Do you use Global Mode or any other legal means of bypassing Geographical blocking to view overseas video streaming sites? Are you a paid subscriber to any of these sites?

Politicians have different sets of laws for them...

mckenndk

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#1278539 7-Apr-2015 17:32

It all reminds me of when a pub in the uk when to court to allow them to use another decoder though a provider in Greese that only cost one months the price of sky to get Premier League and won and then won in the high court in London.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-17150054

Yabanize

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#1278574 7-Apr-2015 18:41

Switching it off by default may cover their ass

Yabanize

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#1278831 8-Apr-2015 10:14

'Unlimited Internet' have given in. I hope CallPlus keep fighting it
http://torrentfreak.com/isp-pulls-vpn-service-after-geo-unblocking-legal-threats-150407/

macuser

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#1278836 8-Apr-2015 10:25

Yabanize: 'Unlimited Internet' have given in. I hope CallPlus keep fighting it
http://torrentfreak.com/isp-pulls-vpn-service-after-geo-unblocking-legal-threats-150407/

Likely couldn't have afforded a lawsuit

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