Sky outbid for EPL rights (Premier League Pass discussion)

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Uber Geek

#1571780 14-Jun-2016 16:02

samsmith:

ockel:

hattrick123:

ockel:

The rights were sold for about USD10m for each of the 3-year contracts. NZ was about the only country in the world where the rights were sold for the same (or less) in USD terms. If M&P Silvia (the wholesaler for 2013-2016) sold the rights for [USD]1m per season to PLP then M&P Silvia sold them at a massive loss per season. The current rights would be worth NZD4.8m per season based on USD10m over 3 years at a reasonable forward exchange rate.

The only saving grace was the previous contract was set at a very favourable exchange rate.

tks ockel, i somehow thought being paid 3 times more that plp...wonder how much bein offered more than plp offered for the 2nd 3 year contract. And if it was a similar price to the 1st 3 year contrat, why did plp not buy it?

I have a feeling that PLP paid about 3x more (in USD terms) than sky did but I'm not sure on that. As to why plp didnt buy it? Not sure but I'd speculate that not enough subscribers to warrant bidding higher than it did, and possibly thought that the higher price paid for 2013-2016 (vs 2010-2013) may have kept others (probably just expecting Sky to bid) out of the market. I dont think anyone guessed on BeIn's ambition to be the new ESPN.

BeIN paid nearly 4 x what PLP did for the previous round. PLP again outbid SKY in the latest round but lost out to BeIN.

So this information is not true?

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samsmith

36 posts

Geek

#1571782 14-Jun-2016 16:05

ockel:

samsmith:

ockel:

hattrick123:

ockel:

The rights were sold for about USD10m for each of the 3-year contracts. NZ was about the only country in the world where the rights were sold for the same (or less) in USD terms. If M&P Silvia (the wholesaler for 2013-2016) sold the rights for [USD]1m per season to PLP then M&P Silvia sold them at a massive loss per season. The current rights would be worth NZD4.8m per season based on USD10m over 3 years at a reasonable forward exchange rate.

The only saving grace was the previous contract was set at a very favourable exchange rate.

tks ockel, i somehow thought being paid 3 times more that plp...wonder how much bein offered more than plp offered for the 2nd 3 year contract. And if it was a similar price to the 1st 3 year contrat, why did plp not buy it?

I have a feeling that PLP paid about 3x more (in USD terms) than sky did but I'm not sure on that. As to why plp didnt buy it? Not sure but I'd speculate that not enough subscribers to warrant bidding higher than it did, and possibly thought that the higher price paid for 2013-2016 (vs 2010-2013) may have kept others (probably just expecting Sky to bid) out of the market. I dont think anyone guessed on BeIn's ambition to be the new ESPN.

BeIN paid nearly 4 x what PLP did for the previous round. PLP again outbid SKY in the latest round but lost out to BeIN.

So this information is not true?

ANZ, Thailand: Optus, BeIn Land EPL

No, that information certainly is not correct.

SwansNZ

97 posts

Master Geek

#1574615 15-Jun-2016 18:40

WolfmanNZ:
Article on Stuff with information about the EPL on Sky.

Very happy with this. As I have Sky Sports, I will be able to get all games live for $80 less than I paid for PLP. If I decided to get rid of Sky, I'd still be able to get the same service (or probably better) than on PLP. Win, win!

gjdavies75

79 posts

Master Geek

#1574625 15-Jun-2016 19:14

WolfmanNZ:

Article on Stuff with information about the EPL on Sky.

Still not clear from this article whether subscribers through Sky for the $12 a month will also get access to online streams.

May be important to know this for when I am away from home and want to watch a game; as I suspect few (if any) hotels and motels will pick up a specialist EPL channel.

This may help me decide whether to go for it via Sky or the $18 option direct from BeIN. I guess I'll have to wait for the official press release to decide.

Still, at least I know I won't need to seek out dodgy alternatives to get my live footy fix.......

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236 posts

Master Geek

#1574626 15-Jun-2016 19:17

gjdavies75:
WolfmanNZ:

Article on Stuff with information about the EPL on Sky.

Still not clear from this article whether subscribers through Sky for the $12 a month will also get access to online streams.

May be important to know this for when I am away from home and want to watch a game; as I suspect few (if any) hotels and motels will pick up a specialist EPL channel.

This may help me decide whether to go for it via Sky or the $18 option direct from BeIN. I guess I'll have to wait for the official press release to decide.

Still, at least I know I won't need to seek out dodgy alternatives to get my live footy fix.......

Access to Bien's online service is included with the Sky package apparently.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/english-soccer-returns-sky-revenueless-deal-ck-190326

lomenak

119 posts

Master Geek

#1574926 16-Jun-2016 11:11

This is a great news! I have used the MENA and AU version of the Connect and was hoping beIn would bring this to NZ!

Any words on when this will become available?

SwansNZ

97 posts

Master Geek

#1574936 16-Jun-2016 11:24

lomenak:

This is a great news! I have used the MENA and AU version of the Connect and was hoping beIn would bring this to NZ!

Any words on when this will become available?

Premier League starts August 13th, so as long as it’s ready by then, all good.

Of course, Europa and Champions League start at the end of June, with West Ham due to enter Europa on July 28th, so might be up in a couple of weeks?

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lomenak

119 posts

Master Geek

#1574957 16-Jun-2016 11:48

SwansNZ:

lomenak:

This is a great news! I have used the MENA and AU version of the Connect and was hoping beIn would bring this to NZ!

Any words on when this will become available?

Premier League starts August 13th, so as long as it’s ready by then, all good.

Of course, Europa and Champions League start at the end of June, with West Ham due to enter Europa on July 28th, so might be up in a couple of weeks?

Yeah, I'm hoping to be able to watch the Champions League qualification games. Exciting times ahead! I may be more excited about this than I should be, lol.

Manutd90

28 posts

Geek

#1585195 3-Jul-2016 18:35

Any news on getting the premier league direct through bein sports connect without having to sign up with Sky? I haven't heard anything since Sky mentioned about getting it direct from bein sports for $18.00 and don't want to sign up with Sky Television. Surley its not far away until bein set up a service in New Zealand.

Ellwood

32 posts

Geek

#1585494 4-Jul-2016 11:23

Manutd90:

Any news on getting the premier league direct through bein sports connect without having to sign up with Sky? I haven't heard anything since Sky mentioned about getting it direct from bein sports for $18.00 and don't want to sign up with Sky Television. Surley its not far away until bein set up a service in New Zealand.

Nothing Solid yet from BeIn, though we still have a month or so. I suspect they are still working on the platform as its going to be a different set of leagues on offer to the other instances on Bein Connect.

this is on the Sky TV Website now:

Point 4: You can get this content directly via beIN Connect online for approx. $18 per month as an alternative to SKY.

https://skytv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3406

gjen

75 posts

Master Geek

#1585632 4-Jul-2016 14:07

the website beinsportsconnect.co.nz hasn't been Registered and is still free.

Manutd90

28 posts

Geek

#1585831 4-Jul-2016 19:39

Thanks for that. Good that bein sports are offering an online option.

JarrodM

969 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1585860 4-Jul-2016 20:16

Optus has released their website and mobile apps for the premier league. My brother is with Optus, so I tried accessing it from New Zealand with his account with dns4me but that isn't working.

Benoire

2798 posts

Uber Geek

#1585862 4-Jul-2016 20:17

I thought that BEin where not coming to NZ because of cost, which is why Sky has picked up the tab? If BEin works, why would they not be coming directly then? I read, perhaps wrongly, that because of Australia going to Optus that BEin would be not able to make it a worth while deal?

Ellwood

32 posts

Geek

#1586165 5-Jul-2016 09:46

Benoire:

I thought that BEin where not coming to NZ because of cost, which is why Sky has picked up the tab? If BEin works, why would they not be coming directly then? I read, perhaps wrongly, that because of Australia going to Optus that BEin would be not able to make it a worth while deal?

I'm pretty confident BeIn are coming, we haven't heard anything directly from them yet but the all the noises are there..

from what i gather, the fact that Sky can't show the games on SkyGo or FanPass is due to BeIn being the only way to watch it online. It seems Sky have also given space to BeIn to show the 2 football channels of which profits will go to BeIn.

BeIn have been quite smart here really, whereas PLP only had one delivery method BeIn will have 2 options which should earn them more subscribers.

Remember their online connect service already exists, just not for NZ customers at the moment. I don't imagine it will take too much further investment to get the service ready for us.

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