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#2177281 12-Feb-2019 18:31

djtOtago:

ockel:

And we know how the Superbowl went, dont we?? Only 2.6m streams across America - and still the apps crash. For 350m people and more than 100m HH's thats a pretty low proportion of streamed viewing. As usual most people watched the Superbowl on TV. Is the RWC offloading most of its viewing capability to TV's? Its streaming or nothing in all but 7 matches.

https://awfulannouncing.com/streaming/cbs-streaming-apps-crashed-late-in-the-super-bowl-for-many.html

I believe iStreamPlanet did Super Bowl LII, not the last Super Bowl LIII.

From memory it was only apps on Roku device that crashed. But I could be wrong.

Fair enough - so it would have been CBS that stuffed up this year.

And for those Hulu users for LII, (https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hulu-super-bowl-live-streaming-outage-program-extension-error-1202687484/ ) and those using FoxSports for LI (https://ew.com/tv/2017/02/05/super-bowl-fox-sports-streaming-down/ )

Essentially there has been problems for the small percentage of streamers in each of the last 4 years. CBS didnt even manage to learn from its experience for SBL https://www.businessinsider.com/cbs-app-streaming-super-bowl-is-not-working-2016-2/?r=AU&IR=T

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#2177285 12-Feb-2019 18:52

ockel:

Fair enough - so it would have been CBS that stuffed up this year.

And for those Hulu users for LII, (https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hulu-super-bowl-live-streaming-outage-program-extension-error-1202687484/ ) and those using FoxSports for LI (https://ew.com/tv/2017/02/05/super-bowl-fox-sports-streaming-down/ )

Essentially there has been problems for the small percentage of streamers in each of the last 4 years. CBS didnt even manage to learn from its experience for SBL https://www.businessinsider.com/cbs-app-streaming-super-bowl-is-not-working-2016-2/?r=AU&IR=T

Also Fair enough.

Shows that Live streaming large events is still a fragile process. There are a lot of pieces that need to come together to make it an enjoyable event.

One advantage we have, is in the scheme of things the RWC is a small event.

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#2177516 13-Feb-2019 10:56

networkn:

I guess with the Chromecast option, I could push it like that. I haven't tried to use Lightbox et al over Chromecast, does anyone have any experience they could provide?

I haven't got round to sideloading Lightbox onto my Shield yet, but cast Lightbox from a laptop (over wifi) to the Shield no problems at all on my 20 Mbps VDSL connection.

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#2177527 13-Feb-2019 11:19

Casting works fine in general, I just don't like it to be honest; i prefer proper apps that can be controlled by the remotes. The issue with side loading apps that are not defined as compatible with your device is that it does not update via google play, instead you have to download an updated APK and side load it again.

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#2177544 13-Feb-2019 11:44

Brunzy:

I’m fairly sure Lightbox has been all the Samsung Tv’s I’ve installed recently.

Yep can confirm my two Samsung TVs have the lightbox app

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#2177584 13-Feb-2019 12:42

Benoire:
Casting works fine in general, I just don't like it to be honest; i prefer proper apps that can be controlled by the remotes. The issue with side loading apps that are not defined as compatible with your device is that it does not update via google play, instead you have to download an updated APK and side load it again.

Sorry to butt in.
I’ve heard this comment from others/friends too. The phone becomes a touch screen remote, provided
you’re casting the app and not the phone. I wonder if you’re using it correctly.

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#2177587 13-Feb-2019 12:43

tukapa1:
networkn:

I guess with the Chromecast option, I could push it like that. I haven't tried to use Lightbox et al over Chromecast, does anyone have any experience they could provide?

I haven't got round to sideloading Lightbox onto my Shield yet, but cast Lightbox from a laptop (over wifi) to the Shield no problems at all on my 20 Mbps VDSL connection.

Works fine for us. Admittedly we only use it about once a month.

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#2177588 13-Feb-2019 12:44

I know how it works but a mobile phone lacks tactile feedback on buttons and no defined ridges etc. so its harder to stop / start / pause etc. without looking at the screen... Remotes are more ergonomic in general.

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#2177709 13-Feb-2019 15:15

trig42:

Re-sell to Sky sounds like an option (then Sky charge for the Spark Sport channel). Don't know if they will do that, but they must have some form of backup in place.

I'd also say they will be looking at 'packages' for streaming where you pay up front and they'll 'give' you a Chromecast.

Spark will be partenering with TVNZ so TV1 or Duke will show 7 games live which include the opening game and final. They'll probably show the All Blacks game live from the Quarter finals onwards plus they'll probably show both semis and 3rd place play off live too.

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#2177713 13-Feb-2019 15:40

To be honest, I am not sure how I feel about Sky charging me for RWC. I pay for sport. Rugby is a core sport in NZ IMO and RWC is a flagship event. Had Sky of won the rights, I would not have been charged.

I see it a little of Sky doing Spark a favour so I don't know if rather than selling them the rights they come to some reciprocal agreement.

Ultimately, if they offered it for $20 for the tournament (every game) or something, I would begrudgingly pay it, but it would come with a letter to the CEO about it :)

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#2177731 13-Feb-2019 15:55

networkn:

To be honest, I am not sure how I feel about Sky charging me for RWC. I pay for sport. Rugby is a core sport in NZ IMO and RWC is a flagship event. Had Sky of won the rights, I would not have been charged.

I see it a little of Sky doing Spark a favour so I don't know if rather than selling them the rights they come to some reciprocal agreement.

Ultimately, if they offered it for $20 for the tournament (every game) or something, I would begrudgingly pay it, but it would come with a letter to the CEO about it :)

How will sky be charging you for RWC? Sky lost the bid in the tender for the rights just like it did F1 and EPL

It's business - just like everyone changing internet provider... Everyone needs to give Spark a chance to show that they have partnered with the right people to deliver. (I'm not employed by spark - Just sick of the bashing they get)

If we use your quote "rugby is core sport in NZ" then shouldnt TVNZ have full FTA rights then as well?

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#2177737 13-Feb-2019 16:04

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networkn:

To be honest, I am not sure how I feel about Sky charging me for RWC. I pay for sport. Rugby is a core sport in NZ IMO and RWC is a flagship event. Had Sky of won the rights, I would not have been charged.

I see it a little of Sky doing Spark a favour so I don't know if rather than selling them the rights they come to some reciprocal agreement.

Ultimately, if they offered it for $20 for the tournament (every game) or something, I would begrudgingly pay it, but it would come with a letter to the CEO about it :)

How will sky be charging you for RWC? Sky lost the bid in the tender for the rights just like it did F1 and EPL

It's business - just like everyone changing internet provider... Everyone needs to give Spark a chance to show that they have partnered with the right people to deliver. (I'm not employed by spark - Just sick of the bashing they get)

If we use your quote "rugby is core sport in NZ" then shouldnt TVNZ have full FTA rights then as well?

I think he means if Sky was the backup for Spark and it was resold to Sky, and Sky charged the customer

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#2177752 13-Feb-2019 16:25

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networkn:

To be honest, I am not sure how I feel about Sky charging me for RWC. I pay for sport. Rugby is a core sport in NZ IMO and RWC is a flagship event. Had Sky of won the rights, I would not have been charged.

I see it a little of Sky doing Spark a favour so I don't know if rather than selling them the rights they come to some reciprocal agreement.

Ultimately, if they offered it for $20 for the tournament (every game) or something, I would begrudgingly pay it, but it would come with a letter to the CEO about it :)

How will sky be charging you for RWC? Sky lost the bid in the tender for the rights just like it did F1 and EPL

It's business - just like everyone changing internet provider... Everyone needs to give Spark a chance to show that they have partnered with the right people to deliver. (I'm not employed by spark - Just sick of the bashing they get)

If we use your quote "rugby is core sport in NZ" then shouldnt TVNZ have full FTA rights then as well?

I think you have misunderstood. My comments are based on Spark using Sky as a backup broadcaster, esp for the customers who either don't have a fast enough internet connection or for whom they are group broadcasting, like Bars, restaurants etc.

You are right, as far as I am concerned, TVNZ should be showing these games FTA, live and uninterrupted. It's exceptionally unlikely they would be showing more than the AB games + Finals, and I know a lot of people will be interested in the pool games as well, so unsure how that works.

For the record, because I am interested in this Sky offering, I will subscribe even if primarily I watch it from another source like Sky or FTA.

I do believe they should be given a chance, but given it's import, and being the first event of it's demand for Spark, I feel having another way to view this time around would be sensible.

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#2177771 13-Feb-2019 16:37

Benoire:

I know how it works but a mobile phone lacks tactile feedback on buttons and no defined ridges etc. so its harder to stop / start / pause etc. without looking at the screen... Remotes are more ergonomic in general.

okay, make sense.

I prefer having the virtual keyboard to seach quickly for things over a tactile stop, play etc button. We are all unique.

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#2177773 13-Feb-2019 16:38

My issue with using my phone as a remote is I often play on my phone whilst I watch TV/Movies/Sport.

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