World-first' weight-loss device stops over-eating by limiting mouth movement

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BlinkyBill

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#2736193 29-Jun-2021 09:08

mrdrifter:

BlinkyBill:

To provide some balance to the sneeringly ignorant comments so far - this device is designed to be used by morbidly obese people scheduled for surgery for a 2-3 week period to facilitate a liquid-only diet and help lose 6-9kg, which improves the safety margins of such surgery significantly.

Hard to see what’s wrong with that.

Linking to the articles informing your balance would also make your own comment far less derisive and condescending. Can you please provide your source for this information as that isn't what the article posted states.

“It is a non-invasive, reversible, economical and attractive alternative to surgical procedures." “The fact is, there are no adverse consequences with this device.” "Brunton said the '’beauty'' of the device was patients could have the magnets disengaged after a couple of weeks." “This would allow for a phased approach to weight loss supported by advice from a dietician allowing long-term weight loss goals to be realised.”

If there was more information as you described above it would make the article far more interesting and useful.

My source was the TV1 news article on, from memory, Sunday evening. The guy who headed the research was pretty clear about the usage.

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#2736194 29-Jun-2021 09:10

mrdrifter:

BlinkyBill:

To provide some balance to the sneeringly ignorant comments so far - this device is designed to be used by morbidly obese people scheduled for surgery for a 2-3 week period to facilitate a liquid-only diet and help lose 6-9kg, which improves the safety margins of such surgery significantly.

Hard to see what’s wrong with that.

Linking to the articles informing your balance would also make your own comment far less derisive and condescending.

You are commenting about my tone, what do you think about the tone of those sneering at the morbidly obese, or even those looking for assistance in losing weight?

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#2736217 29-Jun-2021 10:20

Here is a link to the Otago University article describing this device. https://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/otago830110.html

This article describes the general weight-loss benefits of the device, and its benefits over surgical procedures, and does discuss the particular relevance of this device to those waiting for surgery, and also diabetes treatment (not mentioned on TV1).

So I was mistaken in the targeted purpose of the device, but that’s what TV1 said - it is a general purpose device with significant benefits over wiring jaws shut and bariatric surgery.

Can’t see what’s wrong with all this and why all the sneering from the ill-informed.

FYI I weigh 88kg, 1.8m tall.

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#2736260 29-Jun-2021 12:02

I can't speak for others, but I wasn't intending to "fat shame" or mock. Just pointing out that medical device looks like something created for a steam punk art gallery or by His Majesty's torturer toiling away in a dungeon workshop.

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#2736273 29-Jun-2021 12:40

Another article from the ODT, this one is more aligned to the TV1 news article https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/campus/otago-uni-weight-loss-device-slammed-creepy

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#2736314 29-Jun-2021 14:04

Those later articles provide better insight into the other use cases for this and provide better balance. Seems like a better option than having to have your jaw wired shut closed!

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#2736434 29-Jun-2021 19:02

Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper to put them into a care facility like a resthome, for example, on a strict diet for the period of time required to reduce their weight before surgery?

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#2736446 29-Jun-2021 20:07

MadEngineer:

Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper to put them into a care facility like a resthome, for example, on a strict diet for the period of time required to reduce their weight before surgery?

Just speculating, but I imagine there would be a significant cost difference, having to provide a facility, trained staff, and resources.

It's well proven that willpower alone doesn't work, even if faced with their own mortality.

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#2736457 29-Jun-2021 21:15

I feel like a tapeworm would be easier than thing.

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#2736465 29-Jun-2021 21:51

There's an article with an interesting point of view from someone who has had bariatric surgery about this device on the Spinoff - they mention that the whole "three weeks of liquids" weight-loss before surgery is an awful experience, but seem to think that it is an important beginning to the whole new way of life necessitated by the surgery.

The article is about bariatric surgery because it is mentioned in the original press release:

They state, in the 10th paragraph of the release that: “The tool could be particularly helpful for those having to lose weight before they can undergo surgery.” They don’t specify which surgery in the release, there are any number that might require weight loss, but allude to one kind of surgery in a follow up paragraph:

“While bariatric surgery plays a major role in the management of morbid obesity, it cannot be relied upon to manage this ‘global epidemic’. It costs about $24,000 and patients ‘live with the consequences of that for life, which can be quite unpleasant’.”

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#2736639 30-Jun-2021 11:40

MadEngineer: Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper to put them into a care facility like a resthome, for example, on a strict diet for the period of time required to reduce their weight before surgery?

I think you mean a Fat Camp?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_loss_camp

BlinkyBill thanks for the link to Otago Uni - before that I was sure this was one of those spoof articles designed to test media gullibility.

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#2736641 30-Jun-2021 11:42

MadEngineer:

Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper to put them into a care facility like a resthome, for example, on a strict diet for the period of time required to reduce their weight before surgery?

10 years later the headlines will be "I was forced into a rest home and starved"....😉

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