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jonherries
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  #3450693 8-Jan-2026 10:30
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I’m not directly involved in this but know a bit about the product and situation. Won’t discuss it here, but it highlights an interesting broader problem which is sending copies of records around the health system and over the internet.

 

GP2GP (used when you change GP practice) essentially bundles up copies of all of your records and uses HL7 v2x to send it (sFTP style but Im not in the technical detail, it is likely something more archaic) over Healthlink to another GP mailbox (sFTP folder). MMH similarly creates a copy of your records for their service. Hospitals variously have mailboxes and send results across this service too.

 

Historically this has all happened on Connected Health - a private VPN, which has kept most of the data off the public internet, but this has three effects:

 

     

  1. less focus on security
  2. no or very limited access for new players
  3. Lots of copies which are tricky to reconcile but which all need to be kept securely.

 

Guessing we should be looking at how we both deal with this legacy infrastructure and standards (eg. we should be moving away from message to API based standards v2 -> v4+ ). We did plan to do this with the Hira programme.

 

All of this in the context of OpenAI releasing a new version of their chatGPT app to Healthkit last night, I think a lot of people will be tempted to give them their information…

 


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  #3450723 8-Jan-2026 11:24
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Hira was imperative. It's still 100% necessary and it was sickening to see it killed when it was just starting to get decent momentum again. 


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  #3450727 8-Jan-2026 11:52
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gehenna:

 

Hira was imperative. It's still 100% necessary and it was sickening to see it killed when it was just starting to get decent momentum again.

 

The way the coalition frames cutting “back office staff” as a saving and beneficial for New Zelaand as they are cutting “the waste” is so utterly shameless.

 

Considering how close they were to launch, not to say that it would have avoided the MMH compromise but having such disjointed technology in Health has been such a net negative for the country for decades.

 

To say it’s infuriating is an understatement.




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  #3450738 8-Jan-2026 12:53
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So got a (regular) email from my Medical Centre to say that they had sent a MMH Group Email relating to the breach. MMH is letting me log in, but today not allowing access to my account - so no idea what they were trying to say. 


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  #3450739 8-Jan-2026 13:05
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How much time did you give it? It seems to be very slow eventually telling me I wasn't involved in the data breach.


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  #3450740 8-Jan-2026 13:07
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Extremely slow to process logon, was stuck waiting for ages for pixel.wp.com

 

Once the dashboard loaded, I was greeted with a new feature:

 

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #3450741 8-Jan-2026 13:14
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Followed by:

 

 

They seem to be keen to drive home the message that we need to enable MFA and "keep your password up to date".

 

 


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  #3450746 8-Jan-2026 13:51
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Got the same....  enabled 2FA but horse has already bolted..... 

 

 





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  #3450747 8-Jan-2026 13:59
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xpd:

 

Got the same....  enabled 2FA but horse has already bolted..... 

 

 

Indeed, and basically why I am treating some of my most sensitive personal data as now being in the wild as I have no confidence that it isn't.

 

Applying the principal of trust but verify, I do not trust MMH and I cannot verify anything that we have been told.


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  #3450748 8-Jan-2026 14:01
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In my case logging in just now.   The site forced me to change my password as it had been some time since I last changed it.    Glad they added the 2FA setup at-least.


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  #3450755 8-Jan-2026 14:41
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I have just logged in and adopted the exciting new feature - 2FA
Better late than never, I guess

 

But, the whole user experience is just so astonishingly, aggravatingly s--l--o--w.

 

I thought it might be a Firefox incompatibility issue, so I swapped to Chrome.
Nope, just as lethargic

 

Sigh

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3450758 8-Jan-2026 14:51
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They are offering 2FA of either email or Google and Microsoft 2FA, and they believe that those last two are the better choice. I know nothing about Microsoft 2FA and I don't use Google 2FA for things like YouTube, just a straight Google sign-in.

 

There is no SMS 2FA offered like what ANZ offers and Apple.





Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.


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  #3450759 8-Jan-2026 14:55
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FineWine:

 

They are offering 2FA of either email or Google and Microsoft 2FA, and they believe that those last two are the better choice. I know nothing about Microsoft 2FA and I don't use Google 2FA for things like YouTube, just a straight Google sign-in.

 

There is no SMS 2FA offered like what ANZ offers and Apple.

 

If you click on the "Continue" button on the Microsoft Authenticator panel, it will display a QR code.
If you use that QR code to open a new account in Authy, then in my personal experience Authy-based 2FA works just fine. Very, very, excruciatingly slowly, for sure, but the 2FA works

 

 


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  #3450761 8-Jan-2026 15:04
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I just took the ride and everything pretty much as stated above. I looked around a bit (unlike previously) and was a bit appalled at the amount of highly personal information up for grabs and pleased yet again that I never share anything about myself that I don't absolutely have to. I also got the banner that says I wasn't affected. I heard from my medical practice yesterday, but only because I submitted a complaint. Just saying they will get back to me. After talking to them I intend to cancel my MMH account but I don't want to cancel my doctor and the practice seems to be tightly integrated with MMH. Not sure what my options are. Like everyone else, I don't feel very happy about this situation.

 

 

 

 





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  #3450762 8-Jan-2026 15:09
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Rikkitic:

 

After talking to them I intend to cancel my MMH account but I don't want to cancel my doctor and the practice seems to be tightly integrated with MMH. Not sure what my options are. Like everyone else, I don't feel very happy about this situation.

 

 

Before pulling the plug on MMH, best to fully understand from your GP practice what ramifications there will be.

 

For some it may be trivial and not a problem, for others it may be harder or more expensive going forward to interact with the GP practice.


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