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  #2634422 12-Jan-2021 17:14
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New Zealand plugs produced since around 2005 are required to have partial sleeving on the pins:

 

AS3112 plug showing sleeving

 

That's the black bits on the pins above. Depending on the manufacturer, that could also be white or some other colour, but black is common. The earth (the vertical pin at the bottom) must never be sleeved.

 

Plugs prior to 2005 weren't required to have it, so usually just had three bare pins - these are still legal to use, but not for new equipment.

 

If the plug is partially inserted, you can potentially touch the pins while they are live, or a coin/tape measure/other metal object could hit them. The insulation stops this as by the time the metal part is out of the socket, the pins aren't making contact inside any more and are dead.

 

It's not a massive hazard (they were legal a while ago) but it's a sign that it probably doesn't comply properly with any of the other safety rules.

 

 

 

The Regulatory Compliance Mark (RCM) is an Aus/NZ equivalent of the EU's CE mark, and certifies both electrical safety and electromagnetic interference:

 

RCM

 

 

 

I believe it's also meant to have a number starting with an N attached, to identify the manufacturer/importer.

 

It's fairly recent, so older gear might have a C-Tick instead, which was only about electromagnetic interference.

 

A lot of gear will also have a smattering of other logos and a manufacturer's name. If you only get the words 'AC/DC ADAPTOR' and a picture of a house, be worried.




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  #2634424 12-Jan-2021 17:17
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Don't they also slap a 'CE' on in china in the hope it meets cert, but really means Chinese Eletrical sourced components.


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  #2634425 12-Jan-2021 17:21
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There is also something called an SDoC, or Supplier Declaration of Conformity. Manufacturers/importers are required to provide these upon request for any equipment sold or offered for sale in NZ.

 

Here's a typical one from Bunnings.

 

Anything that's a 'Declared Medium Risk Article' needs to have one. A 'Declared High Risk Article' also needs specific approval from Worksafe or a couple of foreign equivalents to be imported/sold.

 

Pretty much anything that runs on mains is at least a DMRA; there's a list on the Worksafe website.




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  #2634428 12-Jan-2021 17:26
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Oblivian:

 

Don't they also slap a 'CE' on in china in the hope it meets cert, but really means Chinese Eletrical sourced components.

 

 

My understanding is that's just a bad rumour. The people applying false CE labels are just knowingly applying false CE labels, and sometimes hoping that misprinting it means they're not liable.

 

The CCC mark is a somewhat valid mark, though.


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  #2634576 12-Jan-2021 22:41
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jonathan18:

 

SheriffNZ: Just read the Stuff article. The product looks a lot like a Theragun, which I’ve seen pushed by influencer athletes all over the internet.

 

More like one of the dime-a-dozen massage guns sold on AE, eBay, TM etc. Seems incredibly similar to the one I purchased off TM late last year, but that cost half the $219 he’s charging. It would be interesting to know how many of these other NZ sellers, including the one I purchased from, are fully legit in terms of supplied power adapter etc.

 

 

Incredibly similar? It's visually identical apart from the colour and branding.

 

Have you checked your power adaptor to see if it has the required insulation on the prongs?


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  #2634605 13-Jan-2021 02:00
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Oblivian:

 

Don't they also slap a 'CE' on in china in the hope it meets cert, but really means Chinese Eletrical sourced components.

 

 

No they just put it on there knowing exactly what it is. Its not illegal for them to do that in china because the mark has no meaning there. Its up to the importer in europe to ensure that it is on anything they bring in, and that they have the test results etc if they are challanged on it, which never happens for personal imports, they just care that the logo is there.

 

The misprinted one comes back to some clipart source that they all use in China, just someone copied the logo and it became the one that they used.





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#2634611 13-Jan-2021 07:11
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Browsing geekzone with ads on getting spammed by ads for several identical looking products.

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  #2634662 13-Jan-2021 09:30
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Wheelbarrow01:

 

jonathan18:

 

More like one of the dime-a-dozen massage guns sold on AE, eBay, TM etc. Seems incredibly similar to the one I purchased off TM late last year, but that cost half the $219 he’s charging. It would be interesting to know how many of these other NZ sellers, including the one I purchased from, are fully legit in terms of supplied power adapter etc.

 

 

Incredibly similar? It's visually identical apart from the colour and branding.

 

Have you checked your power adaptor to see if it has the required insulation on the prongs?

 

 

Wasn't able to check when I posted as I was at work, but have looked now and it looks kosher to me, but here's a photo of it:

 

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  #2634767 13-Jan-2021 11:23
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jonathan18:

 

Wasn't able to check when I posted as I was at work, but have looked now and it looks kosher to me, but here's a photo of it:

 

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The Myomend and most other identical looking guns are a 24V power supply. It's interesting yours is 12V

 

 


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  #2634881 13-Jan-2021 16:00
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sbiddle:

The Myomend and most other identical looking guns are a 24V power supply. It's interesting yours is 12V


 



The Myomend in the original post is 16.5v. Maybe they need a tear down to establish what the battery actually is. There was a long history of 10/12v power tools before 18/20v took over.

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  #2634945 13-Jan-2021 18:26
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jonathan18:

 

Wheelbarrow01:

 

Incredibly similar? It's visually identical apart from the colour and branding.

 

Have you checked your power adaptor to see if it has the required insulation on the prongs?

 

 

Wasn't able to check when I posted as I was at work, but have looked now and it looks kosher to me, but here's a photo of it:

 

Click to see full size

 

 

C+

 

Good:

 

  • Sleeved pins.
  • RCM mark with (illegible) number under it
  • Manufacturer name present

Bad:

 

  • L&N wrong way around for our plugs. It's not a safety issue (they are probably treated identically inside) and it's not required to be marked; it just shows they didn't care.
  • Manufacturer name is hidden at the bottom in small font and is unknown small Chinese company.
  •  

 
 
 

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  #2638685 20-Jan-2021 11:21
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Perhaps we should be asking

 

why did Stuff publish something that was nothing more than self promotion for that guy's product ?
Just free publicity for what he was selling. It was in no way newsworthy .

 

was it a paid for promotion , written to look like a news article ?


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  #2638688 20-Jan-2021 11:29
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Normally they state If it’s a paid article. But the writer knew the guy so guess it was done as a favour. 


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  #2734973 26-Jun-2021 11:45
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I complained to Worksafe in January who said they were going to audit him.. Obviously it took a while but it's better late then never!

 

Christchurch Physio sold massage guns with non complaint chargers - and seeing the email he sent out to customers yesterday where he downplayed the risks I really don't think he is taking this whole thing seriously..

 

 

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/445558/christchurch-physio-sold-massage-guns-with-non-compliant-chargers

 

 

 

 

 

 


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