Another tyre thread - best affordable alternative for a costly tyre?

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#1398807 2-Oct-2015 14:29

jonathan18:
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Oops, misread it as R18. I would look at Michelin Pilot Supersports or Pirelli PZero for a 225/45R19.

I've rung up eight different places today, and no-one's mentioned either of these brands having a 225/45R19 - while this may reflect the lack of dealers for these brands where I live, do you know if they do indeed make tyres in this size? Thanks!

Yes, they do make them in those sizes. They will probably not be cheaper than the Bridgestones, though, as they are still a reasonably high-end performance tyre. I don't know about Palmy, but you can get the Nexen Nfera SU1 in 225/45R19 and they are pretty good. They are probably $80 or so cheaper than the Turanza. If you just want decent for a good price and don't need a full on performance tyre, I would look at them. Achillies will be cheaper still, I'm sure, but my limited experience with them has been poor.

Lias: Am I the only person who simply buys whatever the cheapest second hand tyre is at the nearest budget tyre place?

I try not to pay more than $30 a tyre.

I hope I never end up near you on the road.

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#1398810 2-Oct-2015 14:34

why not see if there is another more common size that works? maybe a 205, 215 or 235

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#1398818 2-Oct-2015 14:48

If you change the rolling road diameter, you may find you have to replace all 4 at once so it doesn't mess with things like stability control/low tyre pressure warnings and what ever other fancy systems it has.

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#1398821 2-Oct-2015 14:53

Thanks all for the ideas.

Clearly being outside of Akld (or another larger centre) limits choice, as we just don't have the same range of stores or brands that Akld clearly has, eg the range available from Hyperdrive (http://www.hyperdrive.co.nz/product/tyres/122/tyresearch?width=3778&profile=4642&rim=4818&brand=&x=81&y=22).

The Nexen does sound good value - I see Hyperdrive have the Nexen for $299.

EDIT: I found the same tyre for $266 from this website http://tyreshoponline.co.nz, with that cost including delivery and fitting/balancing (via a local firm I assume). Has anyone experience with this or similar website? Would I need to also go into a shop for an allignment?

I have also spoken to the Nexen importer in NZ, who said there are no stockists in my area, but most firms can order them in; I've since spoken to Tony's, which will do this tyre at $270 each.

That's a 37% saving over the Bridgestones, which is a substantial difference ($640 over a set of four), and going by the advice above is an adequate substitute for these; think I'll go with this option.

Just to confirm: is it ok changing only two at a time?

Thanks again for all the help and ideas.

Cheers
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#1398827 2-Oct-2015 15:13

lxsw20: Hyper show a few different options for 225/45R19. I've had Archilles before, not the greatest tyre in the world but not horrible either. Probably one of the better value for money.

Agreed, and definitely better than most chinese

Achilles ATR Sport 2 225/45R19 $225

http://www.achillesradial.com/en/tires/passenger-car/achilles-atr-sport-2

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#1399125 2-Oct-2015 21:24

Only bother with an alignment if the tyres are showing uneven wear. Or if it's pulling badly in the steering. They don't usually go out of alignment unless you hit kerbs and potholes. Replacing two is perfectly fine.

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#1399488 3-Oct-2015 21:39

1eStar: Only bother with an alignment if the tyres are showing uneven wear. Or if it's pulling badly in the steering. They don't usually go out of alignment unless you hit kerbs and potholes. Replacing two is perfectly fine.

Different brands of tyre have different footprints on the road, even for the same size tyre. If fitting new tyres, I'd always recommend getting a wheel alignment. For $50 to $60 or so, money well spent to know they will be wearing correctly.

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#1399489 3-Oct-2015 22:15

I've found Neuton NT5000's are pretty good if you're not wanting to pay top top dollar, I'd put them on par with Continental Sport Contact 2's in terms of performance. On my other car I've got Eagle F1 asymmetric 2s, they are the best tyre I've driven on hands down, so much grip come rain or shine and they have lasted really well too given the daily abuse they take

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#1399497 3-Oct-2015 22:54

I suggest you look at the EU label tyre rating of any tyre you are considering

I found often expensive tyres rated worse under independent testing [assuming the testing isn't gamed aka VW!] than significantly less expensive ones.

For example the Turanza T001 has an EU rating of C /C/70 [fuel, wt braking, noise] for the 225/45/R19 which is an average result

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#1399559 4-Oct-2015 08:06

Lias: Am I the only person who simply buys whatever the cheapest second hand tyre is at the nearest budget tyre place?

I try not to pay more than $30 a tyre.

No you're not alone.

There are a lot of people who go for budget tyres especially here in Auckland. I personally do not think it's a wise choice - but one has to stick to their budget...

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#1399576 4-Oct-2015 09:09

replaced the bridgestone potenzas on my commodore ve ss v - with maxxis ma-z1's 2 years ago as they were approx 60% of the cost ie. $300 vs $500 each

wear - is ok - 2 years on 40ks later - expect they will make another 6 - 12 months? they have lasted a little longer than the potenzas - but i do drive reasonably aggressively
grip - is again ok - possibly a little shy of the potenzas - wet or dry
noise - similar i believe - but i like my music loud so who would know :p

note: there were some challenges with initial wheel balancing - they did come right eventually

so all in all pretty happy with them

would i go for them again? - yes probably - depending on how "rich" i am feeling come replacement time

i also found this site useful as a comparison site:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyres_For/Holden/SS-Commodore.htm

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#1399599 4-Oct-2015 10:13

nakedmolerat:
Lias: Am I the only person who simply buys whatever the cheapest second hand tyre is at the nearest budget tyre place?

I try not to pay more than $30 a tyre.

No you're not alone.

There are a lot of people who go for budget tyres especially here in Auckland. I personally do not think it's a wise choice - but one has to stick to their budget...

So what is a "budget" tyre ?

Some people who are into 'performance' tyres would consider a tyres under $400 budget

Personally I would consider <$125 budget

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#1399602 4-Oct-2015 10:20

xlinknz:
nakedmolerat:
Lias: Am I the only person who simply buys whatever the cheapest second hand tyre is at the nearest budget tyre place?

I try not to pay more than $30 a tyre.

No you're not alone.

There are a lot of people who go for budget tyres especially here in Auckland. I personally do not think it's a wise choice - but one has to stick to their budget...

So what is a "budget" tyre ?

Some people who are into 'performance' tyres would consider a tyres under $400 budget

Personally I would consider <$125 budget

I guess it depends - some people do actually struggle with minimum wage.

I have seen those budget imported tyres (2nd hand) from Singapore between $20-$40. These are mostly tyres with good thread but passed their used-by.

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#1399725 4-Oct-2015 16:48

Lias: Am I the only person who simply buys whatever the cheapest second hand tyre is at the nearest budget tyre place?

I try not to pay more than $30 a tyre.

I'm not quite THAT bad but I'm not far off but I can understand exactly where you're coming from - thinking you need the ultimate performance tyres for road use is pretty silly. That said I don't really skimp on motorbike bike tyres but then I don't ride like I drive either and I'm never even close to being the slowest driver. It makes me laugh when I see posts like "what's your life worth" when ultimately the tyres are really just a tiny part of the equation - I think people use that line of reasoning to justify their desire to spend more - but drive appropriately for the tyres you have (part of which is being an engaged driver, not just a blinkered steerer, and actually KNOWING their limitations) and you'll be fine on the nastiest of Chinese tyres.

But seriously if you don't have the budget for a 225/45R19 why would you get a vehicle with them? I mean, I'd never buy a black car because I hate making needless chores for myself.

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#1399778 4-Oct-2015 18:47

davidcole: What have you read about the chinese ones. I've had hanking and linglong before on a 96 maxima. Their longevity didn't seem to bad....but that car was not used too frequently.

I've followed your thread in the hopes someone has some Ideas as, at some point I'll be replacing my directional 255/35/19s - although I believe they're a non standard size for my car and can drop to a 245.

Stay away from Chinese tyres. I had Mayrun tyres fitted on my HSV, and one day while driving along I hit a kerb dodging someone who decided suddenly to turn right from the middle of the lane and the tyre blew out. It says a lot that calling the tyre shop I mentioned I had Mayruns and the response was "Let me guess, inner side wall blew out? Ask me how I know". I'm guessing you know the rest of the conversation.

Falkan tyres are decent quality for a low price, apparently tyre shops happily fit these onto Porsches with no dramas.

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