130km/h on some roads here in Aus (NT). No median barriers. vvrooommm

Obraik:

 

It's not a motorway though. In a lot of countries, such as the in Europe or the North America, our 100km/h non-divided road speed is comparatively high. For those countries, 80-90km/h is the norm.

 

It's all well and good to say "well, they should add dividers" but that is often a multi-year project with significant cost. 

 

Also, WK / NZTA isn't nearly as keen about doing it as they are on talking about it:

Waka Kotahi .. was supposed to build 100km of median barriers per year, and 400km by 2024. Last year it built 13km of median barriers, and in total it has only built 50km of median barriers since the Road to Zero plan began in 2020.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/481315/government-agencies-admit-trouble-achieving-road-to-zero-targets

Bung: Vvrooom schreeech crash!

Currently NT has road death rate 4 times higher than average of other Australian States (previously as high as 9).

If you have driven those roads you would understand its probably not the speed that is the killer. Hundreds of kms of straight barren roads hundreds of km's away from any help. I dont think there is much of a difference between falling asleep behind the wheel at 100km/h or 130km/h.

Isolation of the accidents is probably the biggest factor. It can take hours to get help you could die while waiting.

Obraik:

 

What is the standard for it? I thought Christchurch's "new" southern motorway would have qualified but we're stuck at 100km/h

 

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/rules/docs/setting-speed-limits-2022.pdf

@obraik If you feel like reading that, somewhere in there it might tell you.

I would expect that section would meet the physical requirements, but probably with it being a fairly short section with lower speed each side, they don't think it's a good idea or something. 

Wombat1:

 

If you have driven those roads you would understand its probably not the speed that is the killer. Hundreds of kms of straight barren roads hundreds of km's away from any help. I dont think there is much of a difference between falling asleep behind the wheel at 100km/h or 130km/h.

 

Isolation of the accidents is probably the biggest factor. It can take hours to get help you could die while waiting.

 

"Hundreds of km's of straight barren roads" is likely the explanation for why there's a higher speed limit there vs other parts of the world on undivided roads. 

Obraik:

 

Wombat1:

 

If you have driven those roads you would understand its probably not the speed that is the killer. Hundreds of kms of straight barren roads hundreds of km's away from any help. I dont think there is much of a difference between falling asleep behind the wheel at 100km/h or 130km/h.

 

Isolation of the accidents is probably the biggest factor. It can take hours to get help you could die while waiting.

 

 

"Hundreds of km's of straight barren roads" is likely the explanation for why there's a higher speed limit there vs other parts of the world on undivided roads. 

 

Thats exactly it. Whats more dangerous? Driving 1500 km (Darwin to Alice Springs) at 80 km/h and taking about 19 hours, or doing the same distance at 130km/h and taking roughly 12 hours. A couple of years back there were even open speed limits on parts of this road. The locals want them back!

The new road is showing on Google Maps now, Apple maps sort of

Wombat1:

 

130km/h on some roads here in Aus (NT). No median barriers. vvrooommm

 

A lot of narrow country roads are also 100. The country is where a lot of deaths occur in NZ. Although I think they are reducing the speed limit of many of them. 

mattwnz:

Wombat1:

130km/h on some roads here in Aus (NT). No median barriers. vvrooommm

 

A lot of narrow country roads are also 100. The country is where a lot of deaths occur in NZ. Although I think they are reducing the speed limit of many of them. 

DjShadow:

 

The new road is showing on Google Maps now, Apple maps sort of

I saw the Google Streetview car in Feilding yesterday, so that may explain the recentness of the update if they're in the area?

Hope Google correct the misplaced closures which are not there on Old SH 1.

Causing routing issues to Te Horo Beach

Drove over the new road today, nice and fast road.

Apple Maps does not fully support the road yet but noticed the ETA to my destination dropped dropped about 12 mins when rejoining the original sh1

DjShadow:

Drove over the new road today, nice and fast road.

Apple Maps does not fully support the road yet but noticed the ETA to my destination dropped dropped about 12 mins when rejoining the original sh1