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Bung
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  #414546 8-Dec-2010 11:17
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They were when the library was first opened but could have been converted to Pay and Display by now.



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  #414560 8-Dec-2010 11:38
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*SIGHS* City planning isn't one of the strength that can be easily found here...

However, the vulture like behavior is, blatantly obvious, might I add...

I had parking warden watching me trying to figure out why the machine won't take my money and then ran to the next machine to pay for the ticket, as soon as I walked away, a ticket arrived on my windscreen... My own fault, for not spotting the the clearway sign that was partially obscured by building structure... But if I was the parking warden, I would have politely remind the person about the clearway sign.

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  #414571 8-Dec-2010 11:55
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Bung: They were when the library was first opened but could have been converted to Pay and Display by now.


Streetview has them as P5, - but they may not still be like that

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?q=wellington&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Wellington&gl=nz&ei=zbr-TNvAI4e4sQPi_r2vCw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQ8gEwAA



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  #414574 8-Dec-2010 12:02
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wellygary:
Bung: They were when the library was first opened but could have been converted to Pay and Display by now.


Streetview has them as P5, - but they may not still be like that

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?q=wellington&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Wellington&gl=nz&ei=zbr-TNvAI4e4sQPi_r2vCw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQ8gEwAA


There's a couple of pay and display parks, but the parks directly outside the library doors are 5 mins only. 

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  #414587 8-Dec-2010 12:39
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technicaljoe: *SIGHS* City planning isn't one of the strength that can be easily found here...

However, the vulture like behavior is, blatantly obvious, might I add...


I had parking warden watching me trying to figure out why the machine won't take my money and then ran to the next machine to pay for the ticket, as soon as I walked away, a ticket arrived on my windscreen... My own fault, for not spotting the the clearway sign that was partially obscured by building structure... But if I was the parking warden, I would have politely remind the person about the clearway sign.


Do these employees still get paid on commission down there??


edit mod rc:no need for name calling.

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  #414603 8-Dec-2010 13:23
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Do these employees still get paid on commission down there??



I agree this scenario is quite harshly dealt but the fact of the matter that as far as the legislation stands as soon as the wheels of the car stop turning you are deemed to be parked.  Except for in a metered zone where you are not legally deemed to be parked until after 5 mins. (at least thats what is use to be when I was in the Police a lifetime ago)

So technically you are in the wrong, but morally I would have thought some common sense would apply (although they don't teach that in school these days)

By all means write in, be polite, explain the situation, and ask for a reasonable decision.  At the end of the day however they are "technically" correct in proving the offence occured.

 



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  #414615 8-Dec-2010 13:42
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"The Council contracts Tenix Solutions who subcontract Parkwise, a subsidiary of Armourguard, to monitor parking in the city." I don't think common sense survives all the contracting.

I have corresponded with a senior Council manager about parking issues and gave up as his ideas about what should happen were removed from the reality of what does happen.

 
 
 

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  #414633 8-Dec-2010 14:09
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Well, in any case, things could have been a lot worse, like car getting snatched and held for ransom by towies... (they take up 1.5 parking space while wait and watch other people's meter tick over)

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  #414637 8-Dec-2010 14:15
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scuwp:
Do these Aholes still get paid on commission down there??


Is the name calling really necessary?

I agree this scenario is quite harshly dealt but the fact of the matter that as far as the legislation stands as soon as the wheels of the car stop turning you are deemed to be parked.  Except for in a metered zone where you are not legally deemed to be parked until after 5 mins. (at least thats what is use to be when I was in the Police a lifetime ago)

So technically you are in the wrong, but morally I would have thought some common sense would apply (although they don't teach that in school these days)

By all means write in, be polite, explain the situation, and ask for a reasonable decision.  At the end of the day however they are "technically" correct in proving the offence occured.


+1

At the end of the day, if we don't want these guys to make money, keep to the rules.  I've heard it all before from mates who get tickets/clamped; "I should be okay here for a minute", "nobody will mind if I park here", "people can easily go around me" etc etc.

As said, ask nicely and put forward a reasonable case.  If you don't ask then the answer is no.  It's not their fault for doing the job they are employed to do.  It's just supply and demand - sometimes people make poor choices in their driving and parking so somebody has to enforce the rules.

It also annoys the heck out of me drivers who park with 2 wheel on the pavement - so far that I have to walk through mud and grass to get past them.  I'm tempted to report them using http://www.police.govt.nz/service/road/roadwatch.html - better still I'm hoping that some kid on a scooter puts a nice scratch down the side.

Ever wonder what would happen if there were no parking enforcers?  Visit Italy!  Last time I was there they parked a car in any conceivable space with no regard to anyone else.




Procrastination eventually pays off.


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  #414663 8-Dec-2010 14:55
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Here in Mt Maunganui, courier vans constantly block traffic in the town center. They just stop their vans in the middle of the road, jump out and deliver their goods.


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  #414668 8-Dec-2010 15:01
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wreck90: Here in Mt Maunganui, courier vans constantly block traffic in the town center. They just stop their vans in the middle of the road, jump out and deliver their goods.


Annoyingly they probably have a permit to do so!




Procrastination eventually pays off.


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  #414672 8-Dec-2010 15:10
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technicaljoe: Well, in any case, things could have been a lot worse, like car getting snatched and held for ransom by towies... (they take up 1.5 parking space while wait and watch other people's meter tick over)


The car wasn't empty, and it wasn't fully stopped until the second that I opened the door.

I've got no problem writing a letter which will state the facts in an appropriate way, I'm not about to destroy my case by being unreasonable.

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  #414680 8-Dec-2010 15:24
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StarBlazer:
wreck90: Here in Mt Maunganui, courier vans constantly block traffic in the town center. They just stop their vans in the middle of the road, jump out and deliver their goods.


Annoyingly they probably have a permit to do so!


Goods vehicles and Taxis do have certain allowances.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303617.html#DLM303617

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  #414689 8-Dec-2010 15:54
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StarBlazer:
wreck90: Here in Mt Maunganui, courier vans constantly block traffic in the town center. They just stop their vans in the middle of the road, jump out and deliver their goods.


Annoyingly they probably have a permit to do so!


REALLY???  I always wonder why police drive right pass those courier drivers park right in the middle of the road without a blink......

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  #414690 8-Dec-2010 15:56
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gehenna:
technicaljoe: Well, in any case, things could have been a lot worse, like car getting snatched and held for ransom by towies... (they take up 1.5 parking space while wait and watch other people's meter tick over)


The car wasn't empty, and it wasn't fully stopped until the second that I opened the door.

I've got no problem writing a letter which will state the facts in an appropriate way, I'm not about to destroy my case by being unreasonable.


Hey good luck!  Let us know how it goes.  :)

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