MikeFly:

 

Google "Pajero meaning" and you will see why they blow the head 😅

 

Very funny 🤣

tweake:

diesel or petrol?

overheating doesn't normally require engine replacement. something else is going on if they say it does. if its cracked the head, replace the head. but you also need to check everything thing else. no point replacing the head or motor to find its a radiator issue thats causing the problem.

 

It seems unlikely that you're going to get a new motor, when the vehicle was outside of the manufacturer warranty, bought used, and it doesn't sound like it's a known common flaw. 

I'd be pushing for them to restart the clock on the 12 month dealer warranty and not much more.

While the CGA can apply to business-to-business transactions, most places seem to have language in the boilerplate contracts to contract out of it for all B2B sales. As I'm assuming the vehicle sale was done in writing, checking the contract will probably show that you've agreed to waive the CGA protections. 

MadEngineer:

tweake:

 

diesel or petrol?

 

 

 

overheating doesn't normally require engine replacement. something else is going on if they say it does. if its cracked the head, replace the head. but you also need to check everything thing else. no point replacing the head or motor to find its a radiator issue thats causing the problem.

 

 

 

 

 

here’s my story:


New motor is $1200 plus $3000 labour+parts.

 

Sounds cheap for a new motor?

My son's 1990's Lancer lost all it's oil when something hit the sump and cracked it around the plug. He drove it to work and back - not sure if he ignored the oil light or didn't see it) and the motor seized. Insurance company cover cost of replacement reconditioned engine - about $3k less $400 excess less $500 under 25 driver excess.

outdoorsnz:

 

This is now resolved. Thanks for all the reply's.

 

Took a good pay out from dealer which was very fair and purchased another vehicle elsewhere, not a clunky ;-)

 

how?

did you convince them they are at fault for misdiagnosing?

johno1234:

 

MadEngineer:

tweake:

 

diesel or petrol?

 

 

 

overheating doesn't normally require engine replacement. something else is going on if they say it does. if its cracked the head, replace the head. but you also need to check everything thing else. no point replacing the head or motor to find its a radiator issue thats causing the problem.

 

 

 

 

 

here’s my story:


New motor is $1200 plus $3000 labour+parts.

 

 

Sounds cheap for a new motor?

 

My son's 1990's Lancer lost all it's oil when something hit the sump and cracked it around the plug. He drove it to work and back - not sure if he ignored the oil light or didn't see it) and the motor seized. Insurance company cover cost of replacement reconditioned engine - about $3k less $400 excess less $500 under 25 driver excess.

 

 

 

Retail prices probably bear no relation to the internal ex factory price. I know years ago an uncle in motor trade managed to get a complete new 289 Ford v8 from Ford at much less that the cost of parts needed to recon his 1957 Custom. I've often wondered why warranty repairs involve heads or short engines considering the additional local workshop time needed to reassemble.

Bung:

 

Retail prices probably bear no relation to the internal ex factory price. I know years ago an uncle in motor trade managed to get a complete new 289 Ford v8 from Ford at much less that the cost of parts needed to recon his 1957 Custom. I've often wondered why warranty repairs involve heads or short engines considering the additional local workshop time needed to reassemble.

 

its a lot easier with brands that have crate motors ie they sell engines to the public. especially in big markets. really easy to get usa v8's ford, chev etc. Japanese brands made in thailand/spain/etc not so much.

^ Like when you're watching a video of someone resurrecting an ancient old motor that's sitting in a frame of rust and he cuts to the next scene where he has already sourced new parts for it and is flushing out the rat detritus ... wait what?  New parts for a nearly 100year old motor?  Oh yeah, he's in the US.

Given enough demand there can be new parts for anything. I remember when secondhand motorcycles quickly became quite cheap. You'd pay a $1 per cc and hope it kept running because the spares had run out. Now I see people rebuilding classic Japanese bikes found in garden sheds where they were left. The parts have come back but it's not cheap.

Bung:

 

Given enough demand there can be new parts for anything. I remember when secondhand motorcycles quickly became quite cheap. You'd pay a $1 per cc and hope it kept running because the spares had run out. Now I see people rebuilding classic Japanese bikes found in garden sheds where they were left. The parts have come back but it's not cheap.

 

not cheap is correct, but thats opposite to your uncles 289 story.

the nearest i can think of here is getting the Chinese built under license engines. still get some of the 90's era motors as they are used in vehicles in certain countries where emissions rules don't exist. how close they are to original i do not know.