Does the 4km/ph speed tolerance in a school zone apply outside school hours?

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#1541978 26-Apr-2016 10:05

joker97:

Firstly, I wouldn't believe everything I read on the internet. If I did, my life would be full of fears and hope at the same time, 99% of which are blatantly made up by some blogger.

Secondly, the speed limit outside schools is 40km/hr with zero tolerance. But this is in effect only during school (drop off?) hours. Going past school buses that have stopped however, this would be 20.

You are correct on both points :o) However, what I really wanted to know was: outside the school hours, what tolerance applies to the 50km limit? Normal road tolerance or the lower 4km tolerance? I was just trying to work out if I was likely to get a ticket. I'll update the thread if I do, and then we'll all know for sure!

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#1542004 26-Apr-2016 10:20

joker97:
littleheaven:

I found a document at FYI.org which states, rather ambiguously:

Speed limits are enforced on a risk targeted basis, between 0730 and 1800 hours on any school day or any other time there is a school activity or event. This may include sports activities and drama nights.

As part of the ‘Speed Kills Kids’ programme, any driver who is detected within a school zone, at a speed of more than 4 km/h above the speed limit, must be issued with an offence notice.

The highlighting has been added by me. So which is it - enforced only 7:30-18:00 on school days, or permanently? Does anyone know? I guess I'll find out in a couple of weeks, either way.

Firstly, I wouldn't believe everything I read on the internet. If I did, my life would be full of fears and hope at the same time, 99% of which are blatantly made up by some blogger.

Secondly, the speed limit outside schools is 40km/hr with zero tolerance. But this is in effect only during school (drop off?) hours. Going past school buses that have stopped however, this would be 20.

1.littleheaven ignores the "any other time" section after the highlighting. As a driver how would you know what is happening at the school?

2. The speed limit outside schools isn't necessarily 40km/hr. If it is it will be signposted. Some 40 signs light up when they apply.

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#1542019 26-Apr-2016 10:37

Bung:

1.littleheaven ignores the "any other time" section after the highlighting. As a driver how would you know what is happening at the school?

I didn't highlight that part because I knew, in this case, there was no event happening at the school, so it wasn't relevant. Gates were locked for the holidays; not a car in sight.

If the lower school-hours limit of 40 km/h was to be enforced during such events, the school would need to have a way of advising motorists of that fact in order that they could attempt to comply with it. This school, which is a college, doesn't have the signs that light up during the 40 km/h times, just a fixed one showing the standard hours. They would have to erect extra painted signs.

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#1542033 26-Apr-2016 10:55

littleheaven:
joker97:

Firstly, I wouldn't believe everything I read on the internet. If I did, my life would be full of fears and hope at the same time, 99% of which are blatantly made up by some blogger.

Secondly, the speed limit outside schools is 40km/hr with zero tolerance. But this is in effect only during school (drop off?) hours. Going past school buses that have stopped however, this would be 20.

You are correct on both points :o) However, what I really wanted to know was: outside the school hours, what tolerance applies to the 50km limit? Normal road tolerance or the lower 4km tolerance? I was just trying to work out if I was likely to get a ticket. I'll update the thread if I do, and then we'll all know for sure!

Two weeks to go ...

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#1542046 26-Apr-2016 11:15

Generally not, but cops can give you a ticket for 1kph over the limit at any time if they feel it is dangerous for the conditions .

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#1542244 26-Apr-2016 14:59

You can be prosecuted for speed under the speed limit you are travelling too fast for the conditions.

E.g. driving at 100kmh ion the open road in torrential rain with standing water on the rod surface.

You can also be fined for accelerating to rapidly within the speed limit. I expect if I went from 0 - 50 in 'now' in front of cop I'd get ticketed.

surfisup1000:

Generally not, but cops can give you a ticket for 1kph over the limit at any time if they feel it is dangerous for the conditions .

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#1562569 30-May-2016 19:39

Ticket yes/no?

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#1562697 30-May-2016 22:39

Jase2985:

Speed limits are enforced on a risk targeted basis, between 0730 and 1800 hours on any school day or any other time there is a school activity or event. This may include sports activities and drama nights.

As part of the ‘Speed Kills Kids’ programme, any driver who is detected within a school zone, at a speed of more than 4 km/h above the speed limit, must be issued with an offence notice.

Does speed not kill adults then?

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#1562710 30-May-2016 23:12

joker97:

Ticket yes/no?

I didn't want to say anything in case I jinxed it, but so far, no. I've been past another camera van at the same spot since, but I was certain of being below the limit that time.

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#1562734 31-May-2016 06:09

littleheaven:

joker97:

Ticket yes/no?

I didn't want to say anything in case I jinxed it, but so far, no. I've been past another camera van at the same spot since, but I was certain of being below the limit that time.

Apologies, should have known. I think you're safe. I said you're safe a month ago, I'm going to say I think you're safe just so it doesn't do the jinx thing.

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#1562735 31-May-2016 06:14

Geektastic:

Jase2985:

Speed limits are enforced on a risk targeted basis, between 0730 and 1800 hours on any school day or any other time there is a school activity or event. This may include sports activities and drama nights.

As part of the ‘Speed Kills Kids’ programme, any driver who is detected within a school zone, at a speed of more than 4 km/h above the speed limit, must be issued with an offence notice.

Does speed not kill adults then?

Most kids (up to the age of 25) don't understand the concept of danger. From 25 most of them get it. Some take longer, some never do. I guess the law is trying to do something for the kids in an area saturated with them. Can't fix everything, eg kids run over in their own driveways, drowning, etc

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#1562799 31-May-2016 09:36

joker97:

littleheaven:

joker97:

Ticket yes/no?

I didn't want to say anything in case I jinxed it, but so far, no. I've been past another camera van at the same spot since, but I was certain of being below the limit that time.

Apologies, should have known. I think you're safe. I said you're safe a month ago, I'm going to say I think you're safe just so it doesn't do the jinx thing.

Yeah, it was the first week of the school holidays, and it's now week 4 of the term, so it's been a reasonable gap. Fingers crossed!

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