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#1484665 3-Feb-2016 18:20

sbiddle:

timmmay:

sbiddle:

I really wish the Commerce Commision would do something about AA smartfuel, it's causing serious skewing of the petrol market while the AA sit there and blame fuel companies for profiteering.

How so?

The retail margin is being skewed to cater for the heavy discounting. For many years retail margins were pretty constant at sub 20c, they're now well over 30c. This margin allows heavy discounting to occur while artificially inflating the price for those who don't have discount vouchers or smartfuel card.

The exact same situation existed in Australia and resulted in the ACCC banning fuel discounts in excess of 4 cpl because heavy discounting was skewing the retail market creating an unfair marketplace.

A pity there is no real investigative journalism on TV these days. This the sort of thing Campbell Live would pick up on if it was still on. So industries can now do it without being challenged.

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#1484675 3-Feb-2016 18:21

MikeB4: I find sensible driving and fuel economy habits will save a lot more long term than 10cent drop here or there.

But combine the 2...

$1.729 for 98 at Gull

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#1484707 3-Feb-2016 18:43

I think I get 15 cents off a litre with farmlands, using Mobil. Just a pity Mobils service is so poor. Went in yesterday to a large one, and no service and the pump was locked. They only have one staff member in the glass box, Pressed the button for help, got a woman shouting back though the loud speaker to say' You'll have to wait, I'm serving another customer', felt like driving away and going elsewhere.

Some of the smaller independents though provide really good service, and they actually come out and help. I don't mind self service, if it was an easy process, and they didn't lock the pumps, and provide an on pump payment method if they do lock them.

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#1484720 3-Feb-2016 18:55

I always go to Z with my motorbike, EFTPOS at the pump means I can leave my helmet on and ignore the on-court 'attendant'. Shopping with minimal human contact is a huge plus as far as I am concerned, it's why I always use the self checkout at the supermarket.

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#1484761 3-Feb-2016 19:54

dickytim:
MikeB4: I find sensible driving and fuel economy habits will save a lot more long term than 10cent drop here or there.

But combine the 2...

exactly

in my honda jazz i can be about .6L/100km less by "sensible driving and fuel economy habits", and that equates to getting about 60km more per tank or using 4L more for the same distance (about 600km).

so thats 4 x 1.589 = $6.35 and on 42L x .10c = $4.20 so about 1/3 less but combine them and you are saving about $260 over 15,000km

money for doing nothing really right :)

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#1485068 4-Feb-2016 10:40

Story on Stuff about this today. Effectively wellington and South Island motorists subsidising regional areas.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/76492876/fuel-companies-pay-for-regional-discounts-with-higher-city-prices--aa

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#1485503 5-Feb-2016 00:47

BTR:

I would be wary of using Ethanol, older cars will have issues as the fuel lines break down as they were not designed to have ethanol running through them.

Rubber can shrink/return to normal size when removed from petrol however generally the percentage of ethanol in petrol is so low that it has little to no impact on fuel lines. Ethanol is less agressive on rubbers and plastic fuel lines than petrol.

The greatest problem is that ethanol fuels will clear out water in the fuel system, which is good in the long term, but short term can cause bad performance the first time you use it - hence they recommend that you should fill your tank to the brim (not 1/4 or 1/2 fill it) the first time you use an ethanol based fuel to dilute the water over more fuel.

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#1485504 5-Feb-2016 01:00

sbiddle:

Gull are the Jetstar of the petrol world. Cheap petrol but YMMV.

That might be their perceived image marketing wise, but it isn't true of their technical position. Marsden Point produces very low quality fuel - as dirty as it can legally be and our fuel quality laws are some of the loosest in the western world. Imported fuels, be they BP 98, Gull 91 or Gull diesel are head and shoulders above domestically produced fuel in terms of quality.

There are models of European diesel car which can not be sold in NZ because Marsden Point diesel will clog the cat's and foul the oil excessively fast.

Edit: Whoops, my data is 6 years out of date - our diesel standards have been fixed: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0608/S00063.htm

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#1486860 7-Feb-2016 12:05

WyleECoyoteNZ:

Story on Stuff about this today. Effectively wellington and South Island motorists subsidising regional areas.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/76492876/fuel-companies-pay-for-regional-discounts-with-higher-city-prices--aa

The media use the term "subsidising" just as spin. This is just an example of the free market forces in action, with less competition results in higher prices.

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#1488464 9-Feb-2016 23:09

Filled up for $1.479 with 10c Smartfuel discount at Caltex today :)

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#1489907 10-Feb-2016 18:54

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#1489911 10-Feb-2016 19:02

ajobbins:

Remind me again what your annual rego costs ? :)

swings and roundabouts...

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#1490130 11-Feb-2016 09:03

wellygary:
ajobbins:

Remind me again what your annual rego costs ? :)

swings and roundabouts...

Most likely the same as my Mazda bounty cost here in NZ before I sold it. Over $600..

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#1490655 11-Feb-2016 17:19

old3eyes:

wellygary:

Remind me again what your annual rego costs ? :)

swings and roundabouts...

Most likely the same as my Mazda bounty cost here in NZ before I sold it. Over $600..

Yeah yeah. My renewal is due in 5 days actually. $771.60