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Fred99:
tdgeek:
Lets accept that drug driving is ok then.
That's a very stupid comment.
Well no it isn't given the current moral ineptitude of western society.
i.e. lack of a moral compass.
firewire:
Fred99:
tdgeek:
Lets accept that drug driving is ok then.
That's a very stupid comment.
Well no it isn't given the current moral ineptitude of western society.
i.e. lack of a moral compass.
What "lack of a moral compass" ?????
What are you talking about?
richms:How many more needless delays will this cause for drivers tho? Bad enough having to queue up for the breath screening, and if you decide to avoid the queue being pursued like you have broken some law or something.

Geektastic:richms:
How many more needless delays will this cause for drivers tho? Bad enough having to queue up for the breath screening, and if you decide to avoid the queue being pursued like you have broken some law or something.
I’ve lived here for 14 years and I can genuinely say that I’ve never queued for breath screening. Indeed, I doubt I’ve even been breath tested more than once every 2 years.
to be fair, richms lives in auckland... we have a fair few more drivers on the road.
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hio77:Geektastic:richms:How many more needless delays will this cause for drivers tho? Bad enough having to queue up for the breath screening, and if you decide to avoid the queue being pursued like you have broken some law or something.
I’ve lived here for 14 years and I can genuinely say that I’ve never queued for breath screening. Indeed, I doubt I’ve even been breath tested more than once every 2 years.to be fair, richms lives in auckland... we have a fair few more drivers on the road.

Geektastic:
That doesn’t necessarily equate to getting stopped more often. Unless the police make more effort in Auckland.
Depends on where you drive? personally i avoid common spots, not because i'm doing wrong but just it makes me quite anxious.
but if you live near one of those, yeah it's a weekly thing.
i was more commenting on the Queuing part though.
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hio77:
Geektastic:
That doesn’t necessarily equate to getting stopped more often. Unless the police make more effort in Auckland.
Depends on where you drive? personally i avoid common spots, not because i'm doing wrong but just it makes me quite anxious.
but if you live near one of those, yeah it's a weekly thing.
i was more commenting on the Queuing part though.
Well that sucks.
We rarely even see police cars except when they come over on their occasional jolly. I think there is some sort of driving assessment they have to do - we usually get 4 - 6 cars that stop for lunch in the village and then can be seen around the area for a couple of hours then they go again never to be seen until the next time!
The only breath test they seem to do as a regular thing here is for Toast Martinborough, and anyone who drinks and drives on that day is so dumb they deserve to lose their licence on the grounds of stupidity if nothing else!

I had to queue for a random drink test - it was about 6pm on a Thursday night on a random road in Dunedin.
Took about 10 minutes of waiting and 10 seconds to count to 5 before they waved me away
nzkiwiman:
I had to queue for a random drink test - it was about 6pm on a Thursday night on a random road in Dunedin.
Took about 10 minutes of waiting and 10 seconds to count to 5 before they waved me away
Random drink test? Where? :-)
tdgeek:Random drink test? Where? :-)
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That is getting quite extreme for a delay, worst I have had has been about 4 mins up to mcdonalds, and then 7 or so on the return trip because I went a different road and they had fewer cops doing it there and it seems more cars going thru. Still adds heaps to a quick trip up the road to get food that would normally be a 10 min round trip.
tdgeek:Random drink test? Where? :-)
Bung:
I believe that ACC used to fund a certain number of random tests. That seemed to lead to Police meeting their tzrgets by random testing at convenient hours for them rather than when drivers may have actually been drinking.
My impression has been that breath testing is done at times and places chosen to have the maximum impact on drivers (not drunk drivers). So, for example, Monday afternoon of Labour weekend just north of Waiouru, to catch people returning home from a long weekend away. My guess is that it's done this way for maximum visibility for minimum cost, the aim being to create fear of breath-testing rather than to actually catch drunk drivers.
Fred99:
firewire:
Fred99:
tdgeek:
Lets accept that drug driving is ok then.
That's a very stupid comment.
Well no it isn't given the current moral ineptitude of western society.
i.e. lack of a moral compass.
What "lack of a moral compass" ?????
What are you talking about?
Some peoples compass needle isn't pointing in the right direction? Why would laws like this need to be enacted if it wasn't so? Which would you rather have? Good people and bad laws or bad people and good laws? I know which one I'd want.
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