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heavenlywild
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  #3234687 25-May-2024 20:39
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NZTA website says now it'll be back up by midnight for those looking for RUCs.




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  #3234705 25-May-2024 21:48
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lchiu7:

 

I have a new hobby now. As I walk along the city streets, I peer at any car which is a EV or PHEV to see if it has the RUC sticker :-)

 

I certainly see quite a few with no stickers, yet.



There's still a week to go before they need to be displayed, so maybe time to get a better hobby?


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  #3234706 25-May-2024 21:54
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heavenlywild:

 

NZTA website says now it'll be back up by midnight for those looking for RUCs.

 

If it's falling over already it's only going to get worse over the course of this week as the thick end of 100,000 EVs & PHEVs get their RUCs.

 

My fall back plan is to join the queue at the local Post Shop by Friday if the site isn't functioning by then but that might be a bit of a chore too if the website issue is anything to go by.





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  #3234707 25-May-2024 22:11
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NZTA RUCs are back for those looking to spend some money.

 

I'm going to... Wait :)


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  #3234710 25-May-2024 22:31
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HarmLessSolutions:

 

My fall back plan is to join the queue at the local Post Shop by Friday if the site isn't functioning

 

 

 

 

Fully depends if they can do anything more than just use the site/system themselves then print the docket locally.


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  #3234779 26-May-2024 13:24
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I think you guys might be over estimating the blip that EV's will cause the RUC system compared to the massive volume of heavy vehicle purchases that occur every day. There is a maintenance window every single weekend, that is sometimes extended depending on what's in the release window. 

 

This may well be an unexpected outage, but I'd be pretty surprised if it was volume related. 


 
 
 

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  #3234785 26-May-2024 14:10
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FYI the site is working again, just got my RUC paid for. 





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  #3234805 26-May-2024 14:37
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This rukus from EV and PHEV owners about the issue with the online RUC purchases insinuating it's all to do with the wave of RUC purchases from EV owners shows to me how totally wrapped up EV owners are in their world.

 

Have a look around and take note of how many vehicles there are on our roads that require RUCs and then think about how that number compares to EV numbers.

 

A lot of cars, SUVs etc are diesel and pretty well any thing bigger than a Ute is a diesel. 





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  #3234808 26-May-2024 14:51
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Technofreak:

 

This rukus from EV and PHEV owners about the issue with the online RUC purchases insinuating it's all to do with the wave of RUC purchases from EV owners shows to me how totally wrapped up EV owners are in their world.



For the vast majority of the people that make up this group of people, it's their first time dealing with RUC, so of course they will be talking about it since they don't know if the NZTA site going down when they're purchasing RUC is normal or not.

Yes there are a lot more diesel vehicles in existence than EVs, however how many of them are buying RUC all at the same time? 



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  #3234836 26-May-2024 15:49
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Technofreak:

 

Have a look around and take note of how many vehicles there are on our roads that require RUCs and then think about how that number compares to EV numbers.

 

 

Yes but i doubt there are 35,000 (Guess of how many waited till the last minute) regular diesel vehicles trying to get RUC in a week. (would be 1.8 million on the roads)

 

Most heavy vehicles would use something like E-Road and hub odometers. So that rules them out.

 

EV's in this last week have probably doubled or tripled the load on the system.


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  #3234839 26-May-2024 15:53
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Jase2985:

 

Technofreak:

 

Have a look around and take note of how many vehicles there are on our roads that require RUCs and then think about how that number compares to EV numbers.

 

 

Yes but i doubt there are 35,000 (Guess of how many waited till the last minute) regular diesel vehicles trying to get RUC in a week. (would be 1.8 million on the roads)

 

Most heavy vehicles would use something like E-Road and hub odometers. So that rules them out.

 

EV's in this last week have probably doubled or tripled the load on the system.

 

 

 

 

Um. What? Do you have any experience in the heavy vehicle fleet world for the assumptions you're making here?

To use one example: Fire and Emergency has one of the largest diesel fleets in the country. There's no EROAD or similar. It's simple enough, the operators of the vehicles (drivers) monitor their RUC and notify admin staff to order RUC when it's needed. There's nothing complicated here, a HUBO just means they are checking their RUC against a number on the wheel instead of the dash.

 

We use EROAD on our (car) fleet at work but it has nothing to do with RUC management.





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  #3234841 26-May-2024 16:03
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BlakJak:

 

Um. What? Do you have any experience in the heavy vehicle fleet world for the assumptions you're making here?

To use one example: Fire and Emergency has one of the largest diesel fleets in the country. There's no EROAD or similar. It's simple enough, the operators of the vehicles (drivers) monitor their RUC and notify admin staff to order RUC when it's needed. There's nothing complicated here, a HUBO just means they are checking their RUC against a number on the wheel instead of the dash.

 

We use EROAD on our (car) fleet at work but it has nothing to do with RUC management.

 

 

This is what my wife told me, who works for a transport company. 

Quick Google shows it can be managed electronically

 

"Our electronic system takes the stress out of buying and managing RUC. Purchase your RUC licences where and when you need them, through our NZ Transport Agency-approved, secure, bank-grade payment system."


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  #3234844 26-May-2024 16:12
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For those that buy through some 3rd party device, the eventual transaction still goes through the NZTA RUC system, it's not like they can magic a RUC licence out of thin air!  Unless you are in the industry I very much doubt you'd have an accurate idea of the sheer volume and complexity of distance licences, time licences, overweight permits blah blah.  Heavy vehicle operators do not buy further ahead than they have to, that would be money tied up needlessly.


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  #3234846 26-May-2024 16:16
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smac:

 

For those that buy through some 3rd party device, the eventual transaction still goes through the NZTA RUC system, it's not like they can magic a RUC licence out of thin air!  Unless you are in the industry I very much doubt you'd have an accurate idea of the sheer volume and complexity of distance licences, time licences, overweight permits blah blah.  Heavy vehicle operators do not buy further ahead than they have to, that would be money tied up needlessly.

 

 

But doesn't go through the front end website, which is what's crashing.


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  #3234850 26-May-2024 16:35
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Jase2985:

smac:


For those that buy through some 3rd party device, the eventual transaction still goes through the NZTA RUC system, it's not like they can magic a RUC licence out of thin air!  Unless you are in the industry I very much doubt you'd have an accurate idea of the sheer volume and complexity of distance licences, time licences, overweight permits blah blah.  Heavy vehicle operators do not buy further ahead than they have to, that would be money tied up needlessly.



But doesn't go through the front end website, which is what's crashing.



Yeah and NZTA sent out an email to me earlier in the week saying their website would be down for Saturday for upgrades and maintenance and if I needed to buy RUC or Rego to either do it beforehand or wait until Monday.

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