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  #2659322 19-Feb-2021 08:05
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Heh, yet in real life, if you don't intentionally injure or kill someone, you still get punished. Just like in real life, an accident should (and does) have less punishment than an intentional one.

 

A couple of weeks ago, perhaps Ireland v Wales where there was a red card for a tackle from a massive cleanout from quite some way away from the ruck. Initially it looked like a "good" cleanout, but afterward when I watched it, I just kept thinking, they shouldn't do that because the player on the ground can change postition, but the player making the cleanout is pretty committed to their course and it's much more "luck" than good training, that you don't injure someone. It's rare (but I do see it occasionally) where a ruck cleaner pulls out of a big clean because it's unsafe.

 

I have been watching this legal fight brewing between older ex players and Rugby Union, around head injuries sustain during playing. If there is a huge payout for this, I suspect Rugby will cease to be played the way it is today.




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  #2659328 19-Feb-2021 08:12
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The penalty for an accident is exactly the same as for an intentional head shot. There is nothing in the high tackle framework that recognises intent.

There's nothing actually being done to make the game safer, just penalising the players more harshly when they make mistakes.

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  #2660036 20-Feb-2021 07:19
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There are reports out of France that Dupont and 10 other players have tested positive for COVID.



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  #2660743 21-Feb-2021 20:17
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I see Dan Carter today has hung his Rugby boots up and said he won't be coaching. For my money, the greatest 10 to ever play the game, and he is in good company. 

 

The Blues have killed yet another amazing players career! LOL 

 

 


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  #2661010 22-Feb-2021 10:30
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I wasn't happy with the Crusaders getting 4 yellow cards in 80 minutes of Rugby! I hope this isn't setting the tone for the season. I really want them to be playing with better discipline! Playing with 13 players is a fools errand at the best of times.

 

 

 

Super Rugby Australia was an interesting watch. The Reds look really good. They spanked the Warratahs who look bereft of ideas even before the Red Card.


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  #2661016 22-Feb-2021 10:35
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There's nothing actually being done to make the game safer, just penalising the players more harshly when they make mistakes.

 

Well, it's not really possible to ascertain that with certainty. There is no way to compare how many more or less people would have been injured without those rulings.

 

At the time of the new rules changes, there were articles with coaches talking about reviewing tackle technique etc. Would that have happened without the new punishments? Unlikely.

 

Of the cards I have seen in the past few years, very few of them were truly unavoidable accidents. Most were careless or reckless. Acts of true thuggery are pretty few and far between these days.

 

 


 
 
 

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  #2662372 24-Feb-2021 21:56
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Interesting comments from Tony Brown on the breakdown. His comments about people coming from outside and trying to create an environment that wasn't compatible with the Highlanders culture were quite revealing as to why Mauger isn't there anymore.


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  #2662653 25-Feb-2021 14:16
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Julien Savea is playing 11 for the Hurricanes this weekend. It would have seemed unthinkable a couple of years ago I would have figured. I am super glad he is back, I'd love to see him back in the kind of form he was in at his best. I honestly thought he was going to go down as one of the greatest wingers the AB"s had ever had. I was astounded at his fall from grace. I hope he isn't going to play the same wooden style of Rugby he was playing when he left New Zealand, that wasn't great to watch. 


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  #2663654 28-Feb-2021 10:35
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It was an interesting first round of SRA 2.0.

 

I am glad the Crusaders got their win, but the ill discpline is really annoying me as a fan. They have given away 6 Yellow cards between the preseason and now, and most of it was pretty poor. Moody was exceptionally lucky not to get a card for his slapfest. Having said that, their maul defense was exceptional and their scrum was massive. Sevu Reece and Cody Taylor were standout players. Dallas McLeod was pretty solid at 12. I'd like to see more of him and Goodhue. Their attack was a pretty mixed bag.

 

The new half back for the 'landers (Fakatava) is brilliant, if he keeps up this pace, I predict a Black Jersey in his near future. He had a wild time in the M10 last year.

 

The Hurricanes were almost as bad in their match, felt like the whistle went every 2 minutes. The Blues showed some good moments, though it's hard to guage them when the Hurricanes were pretty average in the last 30 minutes which allowed the Blues to run away with it. The the pass for the Blues first try was forward.

 

It was a nice moment seeing the Savea brothers lead the team out, a nice moment between them.

 

High penalty counts are a hall mark of the early season as the reasons for giving penalties are fresh in the minds of referees and they are towing the line, hopefully, like last season, they allow the game to flow a little more and get the balance a little more even.


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  #2666041 1-Mar-2021 09:41
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England won't be happy with their performance over the weekend. A few decent upsets in world rugby lately.  You typically don't think of Wales (who were struggling a few weeks ago to string together 3 phases) to spank England like that.


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  #2666044 1-Mar-2021 09:52
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That crusaders player should have been yellow carded at least.

Following a retreating player repeatedly hitting him in his head is not justifiable in any circumstances.

Right in the corner with otago putting crusaders under pressure.

Would have distracted the highlander player too.


Two chaps sizing up to each other is at least equal.

 
 
 

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  #2666061 1-Mar-2021 10:45
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afe66: That crusaders player should have been yellow carded at least.

Following a retreating player repeatedly hitting him in his head is not justifiable in any circumstances.

Right in the corner with otago putting crusaders under pressure.

Would have distracted the highlander player too.


Two chaps sizing up to each other is at least equal.

 

I'd have carded him personally, however, holding players back is cheating. It's massively frustrating as a player and gives the attacking team an unfair advantage. It would then have been fair to yellow them both, so it was deemed a wash. I thought the referee explained it pretty well.

 

 


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  #2666142 1-Mar-2021 12:22
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I found it interesting that last season the Super Rugby AU games were relatively high scoring affairs, but if you were judging games the two games on Friday night (Crusaders v Otago then Reds v Rebels) you would struggle with the AU game. Reds continuously turned down attacking kicks for touch and took penalty goals. Don't even get me started on the rebels they kicked 7 PG's! 

 

I remember Australian teams used to focus on attack and that game was almost northern hemisphere style, terrible to watch.





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  #2666145 1-Mar-2021 12:25
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Points are points. I agree with your sentiment it's boring to watch, but no team is going to turn down their RWC trophy because they won it in a boring manner. 

 

 


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  #2666185 1-Mar-2021 13:24
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networkn:

 

Points are points. I agree with your sentiment it's boring to watch, but no team is going to turn down their RWC trophy because they won it in a boring manner. 

 

 

Oh in a big game for sure, but 2nd round of a small tournament it makes no sense unless this style is the way they want to play. Brumbies on the following night scored 9 tries so I guess it evens out lol. Let's see what this week brings





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