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#2358391 21-Nov-2019 08:34

Batman:

there isn't any Asian or Russian 4rd party service centers that could give ad hoc maintenance? this should be a business opportunity for some clever clogg!

I somehow doubt RR would let intimate details of their intellectual property be made available to anyone but the most trusted partners.

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#2358474 21-Nov-2019 09:32

Many airlines these days simply lease engines, and often simply pay by the hour for use. These typically include maintenance.

Obviously there is lots of minor maintenance that can be done locally anywhere in the world, but the model in recent years has been the establishment of some big engine overhaul facilities around the world in conjunction with the engine manufacturers that do major maintenance for engines.

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#2359680 23-Nov-2019 10:47

Here is a very good article from the Consumer magazine. It explains the Your rights with cancelled flights

in plain & simple English.

Your rights with cancelled flights

You do not need membership to read this article.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2359969 24-Nov-2019 09:26

FineWine:

Here is a very good article from the Consumer magazine. It explains the Your rights with cancelled flights

in plain & simple English.

Your rights with cancelled flights

You do not need membership to read this article.

While some of that is correct, a few of the statements by Consumer are IMHO a little far fetched.

The statement that this issue has been known about since 2017 and will therefore predate anybody booking travel is also simply not true. This issue is specific to the TEN engines and is very different to the package c issues that plagued Air New Zealand from December 2017 right through to the middle of this year. The claim that "this issue was within the airlines control" is also not necessarily true.

The decision made by Air New Zealand last week relates specifically to a public statement made by Rolls Royce on the 7th November in regards to replacement HPT blades that were originally expected to be available in early 2020 that will now not be available until mid 2021.

This issue has only been known about since around April 2019 and has been managed by Air New Zealand around the expectation that new replacement HPT blades would be available soon. The fact they're now not going to be has created the issue.

For Consumer to suggest Air New Zealand have known about this is nonsense - with this issue now having the potential to disrupt the launch of New York services last year (as this service can only be flown by the TEN aircraft with the code2 config) there is way Air NZ would have announced the destination last month if they had known there was a real probability of this turmoil occurring.

As some claims for damages under the Montreal Convention will require filing court action, you can only hope anybody who would get to this point relies on better legal advice than a Consumer article.

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#2360337 25-Nov-2019 10:00

Consumer has always been flaky. I stopped reading it when they recommended stereo's based on the simplicity of the remotes. Apparently fewer buttons = better stereo.

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#2360344 25-Nov-2019 10:12

tripper1000:
Consumer has always been flaky. I stopped reading it when they recommended stereo's based on the simplicity of the remotes. Apparently fewer buttons = better stereo.

That's exactly my sentiments.

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#2360351 25-Nov-2019 10:20

Batman:
tripper1000:

Consumer has always been flaky. I stopped reading it when they recommended stereo's based on the simplicity of the remotes. Apparently fewer buttons = better stereo.

That's exactly my sentiments.

Not neccesarily. You need to read their weightings. For some products a lower price has a lot of weighting, so its better value not better quality. If AV equipment is inordinately complicated, then ease of use also will have a weighting. The reviews are not based on audiophiles

Does this mean that Consumer is inaccurate and misleading as to their services? When they say a laundry detergent cleans better is that also fake news? Maybe they should close?

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#2360357 25-Nov-2019 10:32

For me if I read rankings it's about price, longevity with normal usage and does what it's supposed to do.

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#2360365 25-Nov-2019 10:43

Batman: For me if I read rankings it's about price, longevity with normal usage and does what it's supposed to do.

Correct. Will they place those rankings based on what suits you or a general guide? Thats why you need to read the rankings as if they weight summit more than it bothers you, take that into account, as they cannot customise weightings for everyone

But like many things these days, first priority is to bag [insert organisation here]

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#2360406 25-Nov-2019 12:12

I don't think you can say Consumer is flaky, but at times where IMHO their advice is not the best.

There are also times where I find their attitude towards things surprising, and one of those is sunscreen testing. They have the ability to cause significant harm to brands with things such as their sunscreen testing which they released last week. They don't seem willing to provide all details of their testing meanwhile saying the testing done by other labs is poor and the sunscreens fail to meet the specs. Who is to say the lab they chose is the best and that their testing is better than every other lab out there?

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#2360412 25-Nov-2019 12:23

sbiddle:

I don't think you can say Consumer is flaky, but at times where IMHO their advice is not the best.

There are also times where I find their attitude towards things surprising, and one of those is sunscreen testing. They have the ability to cause significant harm to brands with things such as their sunscreen testing which they released last week. They don't seem willing to provide all details of their testing meanwhile saying the testing done by other labs is poor and the sunscreens fail to meet the specs. Who is to say the lab they chose is the best and that their testing is better than every other lab out there?

Very fair point. maybe they need to be reminded that they are ONLY a consumer testing organisation. They should by default be held in the highest of regards, the sunscreen issue being a prime example.

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#2360447 25-Nov-2019 12:59

sbiddle:

I don't think you can say Consumer is flaky, but at times where IMHO their advice is not the best.

There are also times where I find their attitude towards things surprising, and one of those is sunscreen testing. They have the ability to cause significant harm to brands with things such as their sunscreen testing which they released last week. They don't seem willing to provide all details of their testing meanwhile saying the testing done by other labs is poor and the sunscreens fail to meet the specs. Who is to say the lab they chose is the best and that their testing is better than every other lab out there?

Well, in this particular case, the testing they were criticizing was a series of labs who are under investigation for faking results and a couple who have admitted to doing so.

I agree, however, that it would be far better for them to provide additional detail to whom and what their testing entailed.

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