Clare Curran sacked from cabinet

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#240177 24-Aug-2018 16:08

https://twitter.com/katieabradford/status/1032840204451700736?s=21

Genuinely disappointing.

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#2078624 24-Aug-2018 16:15

Removed from cabinet:

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/364851/watch-live-pm-announces-clare-curran-being-removed-from-cabinet

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#2078626 24-Aug-2018 16:18

Genuinely disappointing

You are disappointed at her behavior that got her removed from cabinet or disappointed she was removed?

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#2078636 24-Aug-2018 16:48

gzt:
Genuinely disappointing

You are disappointed at her behavior that got her removed from cabinet or disappointed she was removed?

Disappointed that despite repeatedly dropping the ball, she’s still a Minister.
It’s a symbolic gesture.

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#2078638 24-Aug-2018 16:53

I posted a question about this on the Turnbull thread before I discovered this one so I decided to delete it and start over.

Can anyone explain to me what is actually going on here? Did Cullen get demoted for the reason cited or was it something else? If it was for diary omissions, why is that such a big deal? Is it more nefarious? I don't quite understand how the dots join up.

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#2078639 24-Aug-2018 16:56

Rikkitic:

I posted a question about this on the Turnbull thread before I discovered this one so I decided to delete it and start over.

Can anyone explain to me what is actually going on here? Did Cullen get demoted for the reason cited or was it something else? If it was for diary omissions, why is that such a big deal? Is it more nefarious? I don't quite understand how the dots join up.

The diary issue is an important integrity issue, she would have been very aware of it. I don't think she is a great loss to the portfolio.

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#2078645 24-Aug-2018 17:01

Rikkitic:
I posted a question about this on the Turnbull thread before I discovered this one so I decided to delete it and start over.

Can anyone explain to me what is actually going on here? Did Cullen get demoted for the reason cited or was it something else? If it was for diary omissions, why is that such a big deal? Is it more nefarious? I don't quite understand how the dots join up.

Short version, holding secret meetings, on more than one occasion, where a conflict of interest existed.
Then lying about the meeting, removing evidence of the meeting, and misleading the house about the meetings during question time.

Apparently that is bad enough to mean she can no longer be the Minister for Transparent and Open Government, but not so bad that she loses any pay or perks...

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#2078720 24-Aug-2018 19:46

NZ likes strong prime ministers so a sacking or two may actually help Jacinda's ratings!

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#2078722 24-Aug-2018 19:49

MikeB4:

Rikkitic:

I posted a question about this on the Turnbull thread before I discovered this one so I decided to delete it and start over.

Can anyone explain to me what is actually going on here? Did Cullen get demoted for the reason cited or was it something else? If it was for diary omissions, why is that such a big deal? Is it more nefarious? I don't quite understand how the dots join up.

The diary issue is an important integrity issue, she would have been very aware of it. I don't think she is a great loss to the portfolio.

Agree, bad apples are not great, when they run our country, more so

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#2078724 24-Aug-2018 19:52

amiga500:

NZ likes strong prime ministers so a sacking or two may actually help Jacinda's ratings!

Probably. Bad honest news is better than bad fake news. They lead NZ, so near enough is not good enough.

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#2078858 24-Aug-2018 22:59

Rikkitic: Can anyone explain to me what is actually going on here? Did Cullen get demoted for the reason cited or was it something else? If it was for diary omissions, why is that such a big deal? Is it more nefarious? I don't quite understand how the dots join up.

Reading the RNZ article looks like a second instance of exactly the same thing. No action for the first instsnce, then demotion for the second instance. Losing portfolios related to the second instance, keeping portfolios related to the first, now outside cabinet.

The really bad part was misleading parliament by providing inaccuate/incorrect answers to questions about those meetings.

This open diary thing seems like a new thing. I'm curious about that. Anyone know more about it?

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#2084734 6-Sep-2018 10:01

So, yesterday Curran was exposed in the House as having used private Email accounts for Ministerial purposes.

(Like a watered-down version of Hillary's private email server issue)

Despite Ardern's reluctance to make an example of her for previous indiscretions, I expect that a by-election in Dunedin South will be announced shortly...

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