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#3449554 4-Jan-2026 11:09

quickymart:

MikeB4:

Who will be next? Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, Panama, Greenland? He has the oil he craved and he won’t stop there. De ja vu.

I would say Brazil (the orange buffoon really doesn't like Lula) but I don't think Brazil has the oil reserves the former craves - please feel free to correct me though.

Brazil doesn't live under a dictatorship. It's as large as the USA, it's on the top five or seven economies in the world. The army and air force are a bit better than Venezuela. The capital is in the middle of the continent, thousands of kilometres from the sea.

The US supported a local coup (1964), but an invasion? Hard to justify or accomplish.

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#3449563 4-Jan-2026 11:34

freitasm:

The US supported a local coup (1964), but an invasion? Hard to justify or accomplish.

Also I just saw this on CNN - I had no idea Venezuela had the most oil in the world; I always thought it was one of the Middle East countries:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/03/politics/legal-authority-trump-venezuela

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#3449565 4-Jan-2026 11:43

quickymart:

freitasm:

The US supported a local coup (1964), but an invasion? Hard to justify or accomplish.

Also I just saw this on CNN - I had no idea Venezuela had the most oil in the world; I always thought it was one of the Middle East countries:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/03/politics/legal-authority-trump-venezuela

Innocent, sweet child. Now you know why the USA invaded. It was not drugs. It was not the will of the people. It was to secure that energy.

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#3449566 4-Jan-2026 11:48

freitasm:

quickymart:

freitasm:

The US supported a local coup (1964), but an invasion? Hard to justify or accomplish.

Also I just saw this on CNN - I had no idea Venezuela had the most oil in the world; I always thought it was one of the Middle East countries:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/03/politics/legal-authority-trump-venezuela

Innocent, sweet child. Now you know why the USA invaded. It was not drugs. It was not the will of the people. It was to secure that energy.

And he said the US will fix the infrastructure, which he immediately clarified as the oil infrastructure

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#3449571 4-Jan-2026 12:16

Gurezaemon: I'm confilicted by this. On one hand, I'm glad that Maduro, the latest in a long line of murderous South American thug-dictators, is gone. It's too late for the thousands of people who have died or been 'vanished' under his rule,

That summary is broadly inaccurate imo. Tens of deaths have regularly occurred during large protests - it is unacceptable but it is not thousands. Likewise for the 'vanishing' case. You can find accurate summaries with most human rights organizations and Wikipedia. After reading those In terms of the long history of south american dictators the Maduro government barely rates.

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#3449577 4-Jan-2026 12:31

Your oil is weak America !
Its not the right kind of oil nowdays.
They pumped most of the good stuff already.

Venezuela is not just any largest reserve, but the right stuff apparently.
A long running supplier of the very best crude for American refineries.
Russia has been gifted the same kind as well.
Canada can produce much lessor amounts of the right stuff, thus the 51st state thing.

USA, while fracking has revolutionized their output, made it world largest, Bigly again.
Light coloured and frothy that American refiners don't like as its lacking.
USA a major exporter sending a good amount of it offshore to import the good stuff.

If Maduro had given USA refiners a little bit of a deal, especially stroked Trumps pride.
If there were not millions of pages of sharpied files that MAGA needed distraction from.
He would be more than ok.

As anyone who hands Trump, a world series ring, world cup medal or trophy to hold,
its super hard for him to ever let anything of value go.

Cabinet full of avarice, burgeoning Oligarchy shouting 'pick me' to extract value.

Plus ongoing distraction through midterms. Epstein who?

Hopefully for long suffering Venezuelan people Trump & bros are incompetent at the dictator 'B' bit.

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#3449578 4-Jan-2026 12:35

The rule of law is the victim here. It is the only real protection we little guys have in the world. As soon as bullies like Putin and Trump start taking whatever they want, we are in deep shit. Greenland, anyone? Maybe Canada? Maybe Taiwan? Oh yum, there is underpopulated New Zealand, ripe for the picking!

Maduro is a sleaze. He deserves no sympathy at all. But bashing one bully with a bigger one isn't the answer to anything. I don't want to live in a world without rules.

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#3449579 4-Jan-2026 12:36

Maduro has been charged in the USA with narco-terrorist conspiracy. It's unclear what the next US moves in Venezuela might be. It is possible the US expected a total collapse of the Venezuela state after they picked up Maduro. That has not happened.

The US oil blockade will be crushing for Venezuela's economy. The US might be counting on that aspect.

Imo there is a continuing opportunity for the US to negotiate a happy ending. It's unclear if the US will be prepared to genuinely engage on that basis. I suspect not and that means more difficulties for Venezuela.

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#3449582 4-Jan-2026 12:45

Maduro is a sleaze.

As yet I have not heard any allegations of that nature or that the president of Venezuela ran fake beauty contests for minors and sexually expired them with rich friends. The president of the USA on the other hand those things are known.

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#3449590 4-Jan-2026 13:04

gzt: Maduro has been charged in the USA with narco-terrorist conspiracy. It's unclear what the next US moves in Venezuela might be. It is possible the US expected a total collapse of the Venezuela state after they picked up Maduro. That has not happened.

The US oil blockade will be crushing for Venezuela's economy. The US might be counting on that aspect.

Imo there is a continuing opportunity for the US to negotiate a happy ending. It's unclear if the US will be prepared to genuinely engage on that basis. I suspect not and that means more difficulties for Venezuela.

Now that Maduro has gone, are those sanctions ready to be lifted in the near future?

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#3449614 4-Jan-2026 14:59

The real reason Venezuela matters, and it ain't Jed Clampett , ah ahem, DJT !!

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3449618 4-Jan-2026 15:37

China helped confirm Maduro's location ! :-)

Chinese Diplomats Arrived in Venezuela for Talks with Maduro Hours Before US Strikes — And Are Still There: Report
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/chinese-diplomats-arrived-venezuela-talks-185529692.html?guccounter=1

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Hours before Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro was captured during a U.S. military operation, he met with Chinese diplomats, who are reportedly still in Caracas.
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Guyana will not be missing the invasion threats from Venezuela thou.
https://www.voanews.com/a/us-guyana-denounce-venezuelan-naval-incursion-/7993807.html

This is the kind of 'Manly', action that will have MAGA forgetting what's on the pages of black ink.
Waiting for those Trump dividend cheques in the mail, if Trump can be given freedom to extort.
Roll on midterms.

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#3449656 4-Jan-2026 17:00

freitasm:

Innocent, sweet child. Now you know why the USA invaded. It was not drugs. It was not the will of the people. It was to secure that energy.

Oh, I always knew there was oil there and that would have been why it was invaded (ditto Iraq - that WMD crap was absolute nonsense, I didn't believe it for a second). I was just surprised that Venezuela had the most oil.

Saw these two memes today (amongst many), thought they were interesting:

and imagine, indeed!

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#3449661 4-Jan-2026 17:05

Any other country the US would be the loudest at calling for sanctions or more. The US is a rogue state and needs to be treated as such.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3449684 4-Jan-2026 18:21

tdgeek: 100% agree.

You can have regime change to free the downtrodden citizens from a ruthless dictator.

Or you have other non citizens reasons, as Trump continuously has stated.

Trump cannot claim taking the high road on anything.

Remember history: US forced regime change rarely ends well.

Iraq 2003 toppled Saddam but unleashed sectarian chaos and ISIS.

Afghanistan 2001 ousted the Taliban only for them to return after two decades of war.

Chile 1973 helped derail Allende’s elected government, leading to Pinochet’s dictatorship.

Guatemala 1954 overthrew Arbenz, ushering in decades of brutal repression and civil war.

The pattern shows US intervention often worsens stability, not peace.

Might does not make right.

The world is full of bad actors, including one that made Idi Amin looks sane, Trump.

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