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  #2791751 8-Oct-2021 11:54
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It seems Judith Collins isn't popular with the business sector.





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  #2796078 16-Oct-2021 07:32
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What happens now? If the polls keep going the way they're going for National...possibly a new leader by Christmas.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/126687321/if-these-poll-numbers-continue-nats-could-have-a-new-leader-by-christmas

 

 


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  #2796112 16-Oct-2021 08:11
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I think the bigger question is not if or when, but who? It really feels like there is no one else. If they had a viable leader they would have already emerged and ended their fiasco.




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  #2796166 16-Oct-2021 10:33
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Judith won't go down without a fight though.


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  #2796183 16-Oct-2021 11:22
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I've got my popcorn and I'm ready for the show.
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  #2796432 17-Oct-2021 08:14
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Varkk:

 

I think the bigger question is not if or when, but who? It really feels like there is no one else. If they had a viable leader they would have already emerged and ended their fiasco.

 

 

And that's why that party is going nowhere, regardless of how many mistakes Labour makes. Collins is living in a fantasy land where she's PM material, or she doesn't care & is just there for the paycheck. No one else is interested in the top job or they would be making an effort to raise their public persona or they're not talented enough to do so.


 
 
 

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  #2796556 17-Oct-2021 09:42
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arcon:

 

Varkk:

 

I think the bigger question is not if or when, but who? It really feels like there is no one else. If they had a viable leader they would have already emerged and ended their fiasco.

 

 

And that's why that party is going nowhere, regardless of how many mistakes Labour makes. Collins is living in a fantasy land where she's PM material, or she doesn't care & is just there for the paycheck. No one else is interested in the top job or they would be making an effort to raise their public persona or they're not talented enough to do so.

 

 

I don't follow this closely but both Shane Reti and Chris Bishop strike me as competent and reasonable voices. I would think either one would probably double National's support overnight.

 

 





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  #2796627 17-Oct-2021 11:12
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I read somewhere that Chris Bishop was being touted as someone who could become leader after the next election, but now is too early for him. Chris Luxon hasn't really done anything of note (yet). Shane Reti I don't know enough about but he has slightly more public profile.


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  #2797018 18-Oct-2021 11:55
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National right now are pretty much invisible. There are so many fronts on which they could be confronting the Government and the silence is deafening.

 

They are a disgrace to the word Opposition.


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  #2797051 18-Oct-2021 13:01
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Rikkitic:

 

I don't follow this closely but both Shane Reti and Chris Bishop strike me as competent and reasonable voices. I would think either one would probably double National's support overnight.

 

 

No political persona in NZ I can think of could get National from 21% to 42% from one poll to the next. Bishop's a nice guy & I like the way he comes across - I think he'd draw 6-7 points immediately which might be the best National could hope for right now. That's if it was possible to navigate his way past Judith's constantly flailing 360 degree knife arms. I can't see a quiet background persona like Reti drawing more than a few points.


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  #2797052 18-Oct-2021 13:04
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I was speaking figuratively. What I meant was either one would be a huge improvement over the current situation.

 

 





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  #2799556 22-Oct-2021 16:13
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Rikkitic:

 

.....I don't follow this closely but both Shane Reti and Chris Bishop strike me as competent and reasonable voices.....

 

 

Interesting😁


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  #2799580 22-Oct-2021 16:59
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I expect there is tons of free publicity if National would get out in community supporting vaccination.

 

I have only heard of Shane Reti getting right into it.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018816250/mp-and-gp-dr-shane-reti-helps-vaccinate-locals-in-northland

 

Ok there have been statements part of interviews, which is a bit dry, but I seem to have missed them doing anything else ?


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  #2799623 22-Oct-2021 18:54
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ezbee:

 

Ok there have been statements part of interviews, which is a bit dry, but I seem to have missed them doing anything else ?

 

 

It doesn't sound like they got much of a chance to be involved in Super Saturday, there were some eyebrows raised about the lack of bipartisan face-time other than the obligatory wall of faces. 


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  #2799633 22-Oct-2021 19:35
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ezbee:

 

Ok there have been statements part of interviews, which is a bit dry, but I seem to have missed them doing anything else ?

 

 

Judith posted support for Super Saturday on National's IG. But I'm not sure if it was boosted, if not its basically worthless politically.


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