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#3449841 5-Jan-2026 09:47

Accurate:

This one is sarcasm/satire, but it wouldn't surprise me if the orange buffoon saw this and thought this map (or parts of it) had some, uh, potential 🙄

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#3449871 5-Jan-2026 11:05

Dingbatt: I’ll just drop this very interesting interview in here

The speaker is a self described conservative and more or less summarizes the US case against Maduro. The speaker claims Maduro shifted oil supply towards China and Russia and away from the US. That part is extremely misleading. The US was always the biggest customer for Venezuelan oil until the 2019 Trump administration decided to apply oil sanctions. As you might expect that decision totally starved US refineries. Spectacular own goal. 2019 articles record an increase in fuel prices as a result. That effect remains current.

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#3449878 5-Jan-2026 11:25

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/danish-pm-calls-on-us-to-stop-threatening-greenland/5WNQIJ3YJRHOZBEV3DOBVGJXXA/

Denmark has called on the United States to stop “threatening” Greenland as President Donald Trump told US media he “absolutely” needed the territory, a day after Washington seized the leader of Venezuela.

I gotta hand it to the orange buffoon - having taken over Venezuela he now casts his eyes (again) towards Greenland. All this is a pretty good distraction from the Epstein Files! 🙄

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#3449879 5-Jan-2026 11:26

gzt:
Dingbatt: I’ll just drop this very interesting interview in here

The speaker is a self described conservative and more or less summarizes the US case against Maduro. The speaker claims Maduro shifted oil supply towards China and Russia and away from the US. That part is extremely misleading. The US was always the biggest customer for Venezuelan oil until the 2019 Trump administration decided to apply oil sanctions. As you might expect that decision totally starved US refineries. Spectacular own goal. 2019 articles record an increase in fuel prices as a result. That effect remains current.

I'm not familiar with Mr Global. He is sharply critical of Donald Trump throughout, especially why Trump’s oil claims are unrealistic. Without looking elsewhere, I'd call him "left" by US standards.

The video is mainly about why Venezuelan oil is unattractive to US companies, and how OPEC and global oil politics work.

Under Trump first term, US gasoline prices generally fell, not rose, due to global oversupply and weakening demand. I remember when all west-coast storage facilities were completely full, and wouldn't accept anymore oil.

Getting back to Trump's current gloating over cheaper future oil prices, Even then the Venezuelan sanctions were modest and temporary.

Venezuelan oil is no longer systemically important to US fuel pricing. Current fuel prices are driven far more by global demand, OPEC+ policy, Russia, refining outages, and seasonal factors.

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#3449880 5-Jan-2026 11:29

I should have included the link. I was responding to the "Triggernometry" podcast video earlier. A "Mr Global" video was posted later in the thread.

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#3449886 5-Jan-2026 11:36

Both videos were informative. Cheers

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#3449888 5-Jan-2026 11:41

kingdragonfly: Venezuelan oil is no longer systemically important to US fuel pricing. Current fuel prices are driven far more by global demand, OPEC+ policy, Russia, refining outages, and seasonal factors.

That's likely correct at this point because Venezuela's oil has been more or less off the market since the U.S stopped importing under Trump's 2019 sanctions and the market has had time to adjust to that. Would a USA resumption of imports decrease USA fuel prices? I think so. The market effect would be minor but still significant in terms of US single digit consumer price inflation.

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#3449891 5-Jan-2026 11:51

kingdragonfly: Under Trump first term, US gasoline prices generally fell, not rose, due to global oversupply and weakening demand. I remember when all west-coast storage facilities were completely full, and wouldn't accept anymore oil.

In Trump's first term (2016-2020) fuel prices started out low and generally increased from there. There is a massive dip in demand during the COVID-19 pandemic and a consequent price fall at that point. Other than that, US fuel prices generally increased during Trump's first term:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=a

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#3449892 5-Jan-2026 11:51

quickymart: I gotta hand it to the orange buffoon - having taken over Venezuela he now casts his eyes (again) towards Greenland. All this is a pretty good distraction from the Epstein Files!

You might as well say "the pyromaniacs' club outing to watch a bonfire was briefly interrupted by a naked maniac waving a meat cleaver running toward them."

The Epstein files are not going away. Americans love salacious crime about the rich and powerful.

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#3449894 5-Jan-2026 11:57

Trump is a demented moron controlled by wannabe nazis. Don't think it stops here.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#3450092 5-Jan-2026 16:46

I feel that the lack of meaningful objections from world leaders will leave a number of nations at risk. If 1939 showed the world anything it was you cannot placate fascist megalomaniacs.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3450093 5-Jan-2026 16:51

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#3450100 5-Jan-2026 17:07

Trump threatens Venezuela's Vice President with a fate worse than Maduro's removal:

RNZ: "If she doesn't do what's right, she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro," Trump told The Atlantic in a brief telephone interview.

It's unclear what Trump might be threatening but worse than imprisonment for life in USA? It's clearly intended to bring to mind death by missile or something of that nature if the VP doesn't do exactly what Trump says..

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#3450118 5-Jan-2026 18:08

Its like Trumps plan for healthcare.
Just break everything leave people in desperate situations.
There is more money for him to spend on himself.
I'm ok.

He then appoints a whole cabinet of golf buddies and crazies that are of similar ilk.
Tariffs will solve all our economic problems and feed endless speculation.
Outright threaten Japan, South Korea etc, give us 100's Billions, feed speculation or else.
Turn the economy into a pyramid scheme, rug-pull.
I'm ok so its ok.

Just shut up and buy the dip.

Its not consistent, we pardon one drug dealing dictator, then grab another for drug dealing.

The Maduro drug charges are going through USA courts, so he has his days in court.

Maduro is no head of state, nor is his deputy a deputy, they lost an election and never left.
Then next time learning their lesson made sure using all their dictatorial power.

Did what Trump tried to do, but Trump failed.
Then did what Trump and GOP is trying to do now for a threepeat.

Trump and enablers believe they are dealing with people like them! We can do a deal.

Anyhow plan was not to support a return to democracy. They are already our people.
Just give the next level autocrat a promotion.
Then they will swear allegiance to you.

Could be out of a Mafia story or film.
Maybe Trump saw a movie in the 80's and is replaying it.

Thats pretty much it.

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#3450127 5-Jan-2026 18:58

His power ego is overtaking him, unstoppable (as he thinks)

Alienate your allies.

Aggravate your enemies, in this case China who gets oil from Venezuela. But a trade "friend" as they are mutually dependent.

Aggravate Russia who is an ally of Venezuela for military equipment. Allows idiot Putin to dig in even more.

As I posted in the Trump thread eons ago it feels, friends will find friends. Trade will change. Trump wants MAGA, make it in the USA. He will get that. Hopefully. Normal nations will trade amongst themselves, leaving the US of A to manufacture bigly (at a cost to the unimportant citizens) There is a reason why the US imports what it does. Its cheaper. Was it Adam Smith that said "guns for butter"? (Not guns in todays Trump world, but if you can make A better than me, and I make B better than you, lets trade)

He tariffed a really small Pacific nation, cannot recall who, that exported to the US as the US cannot grow it. They need to export to anywhere/everywhere else

They say in sport that the cream will rise to the top. It does. In todays geo-political world, the lead will sink to the bottom. Then they MAGA politicians will come running once, sorry too late.

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