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#2932981 22-Jun-2022 09:08

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/richard-prebble-national-can-win-the-election-but-can-they-govern/5DNIRUCGOXRRWSXHHBSUFGDITM/ (paywalled)

Given the results in Tauranga at the weekend, Richard Prebble says that National and Act could now win the next election. Still some way off though.

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#2933425 23-Jun-2022 10:15

Goodfellow to retire. I am glad. Of recent times, I feel he hasn't really been prepared to accept the changes required for National in the way they communicate and do things.

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#2933447 23-Jun-2022 10:49

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/richard-prebble-national-can-win-the-election-but-can-they-govern/5DNIRUCGOXRRWSXHHBSUFGDITM/ (paywalled)

Given the results in Tauranga at the weekend, Richard Prebble says that National and Act could now win the next election. Still some way off though.

I don't think things are going to get any better here on in to the election for Labour/Greens. I think it's coming to the point that anything will be better than what we have now. The recent Act social media post about DJ Ardern's records is a pretty good summation.

I think it could get so bad that the next election could finish Labour off. They were almost down and out after the 2008 election, so much so that they had to levy the remaining sitting MPs to pay their election advertising expenses. I hope it doesn't happen as we need a good, strong opposition.

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#2933450 23-Jun-2022 10:51

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Goodfellow to retire. I am glad. Of recent times, I feel he hasn't really been prepared to accept the changes required for National in the way they communicate and do things.

Yes, agree. I've been of the opinion for quite a while that he needs to go.

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#2933454 23-Jun-2022 11:16

A very fitting way to describe the selection screw-ups he presided over (this was from 12 months ago):

Well past time for a new face for president, methinks.

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#2933456 23-Jun-2022 11:19

quickymart:

A very fitting way to describe the selection screw-ups he presided over (this was from 12 months ago):

Well past time for a new face for president, methinks.

That's a pretty stupid picture to be honest. Imagine what the first 3 years of Labours scandals would look like crystallized into a meme of this nature.

Factually accurate no doubt, but pretty silly nonetheless.

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#2933488 23-Jun-2022 12:41

Oh I'm not saying Labour aren't without their problems, too. Yes it is silly, but I was posting it more for the factual accuracy, as you point out.

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#2933490 23-Jun-2022 12:42

quickymart:

Oh I'm not saying Labour aren't without their problems, too. Yes it is silly, but I was posting it more for the factual accuracy, as you point out.

Let's be real. You posted it in utter delight to stick the boot into National :)

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#2933504 23-Jun-2022 13:11

quickymart:

A very fitting way to describe the selection screw-ups he presided over (this was from 12 months ago):

Well past time for a new face for president, methinks.

While I think the time is long past that he should have moved on that cartoon is a mischaracterisation IMO. To blame him for those selections and infer those people weren't selected on merit isn't fair.

He may have been President but I doubt he has any overriding control when selecting candidates. Also based on the situation and the candidates that offered themselves those chosen may well have been the best choice at the time of selection.

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#2933528 23-Jun-2022 13:45

networkn:

Let's be real. You posted it in utter delight to stick the boot into National :)

I'm happy to add another one.

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#2933544 23-Jun-2022 14:38

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networkn:

Let's be real. You posted it in utter delight to stick the boot into National :)

I'm happy to add another one.

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#2934037 24-Jun-2022 22:38

Former National MP Maurice Williamson not impressed with how his exit was handled: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/former-national-mp-maurice-williamson-says-old-boys-network-in-play-around-belated-peter-goodfellow-retirement-announcement/OWKKGVA4Q3C7TL3W5GYKWZWL3I/?ref=readmore

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#2934758 27-Jun-2022 08:08

quickymart:

A very fitting way to describe the selection screw-ups he presided over (this was from 12 months ago):

Well past time for a new face for president, methinks.

I'd take Nationals selection criteria over the circus clowns that are appointed on "diversity grounds" any day of the week (and twice on Sundays)......

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#2937495 2-Jul-2022 13:44

Opinion piece re Peter Goodfellow (finally) leaving:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/129139451/janet-wilson-be-a-goodfellow-wont-you-and-go-now

Note that Janet Wilson used to work for the National Party leading up to the 2020 election.

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While I think the time is long past that he should have moved on that cartoon is a mischaracterisation IMO. To blame him for those selections and infer those people weren't selected on merit isn't fair.

He may have been President but I doubt he has any overriding control when selecting candidates.

The story I linked to above indicates otherwise.

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#2937835 3-Jul-2022 10:30

quickymart:

Opinion piece re Peter Goodfellow (finally) leaving:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/129139451/janet-wilson-be-a-goodfellow-wont-you-and-go-now

Note that Janet Wilson used to work for the National Party leading up to the 2020 election.

Technofreak:

While I think the time is long past that he should have moved on that cartoon is a mischaracterisation IMO. To blame him for those selections and infer those people weren't selected on merit isn't fair.

He may have been President but I doubt he has any overriding control when selecting candidates.

The story I linked to above indicates otherwise.

That article dosen't indicate he had any overriding control at all.

It says he had the opportunity to be involved in the selection process (which he likely did at least in some cases). He was still only one voice on the selection panel, there's nothing in that article to say he was able to veto or override the majority when it came to selecting candidates.

We do agree on one thing, he is well past his use by date.

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