IceTV EPG for NZ? yay or nay?

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Ultimate Geek
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#278522 1-Dec-2009 22:22

Sorry, dumb suggestion. I am one of the insignificant % that already has a dish on the roof, wired to my lounge. I plugged in a 2nd hand hauppauge card ($60 or $2/week for 30 weeks), typed in 11300, clicked ok and now have a reliable, slick, accurate bulletproof guide that required minimal setup.

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Ultimate Geek
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#278523 1-Dec-2009 22:22

sbiddle: No it's bit more complicated than that.

Ah okay. Pity.

Microsoft did openly release the specs so people could build their own apps - that's why there are solutions such as BSE around already that work well. They still need an data source from somewhere however, and thaty's typically the XML sources from EIT data.

Yeah. Some of the existing data sources are pretty reliable and have quite consistant data.

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icetv

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Wannabe Geek

#278549 1-Dec-2009 23:38

Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Keep it coming!

What are the shortfalls (if any) with the current data being delivered via EIT?

borgia

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Master Geek
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#278586 2-Dec-2009 06:27

"hat are the shortfalls (if any) with the current data being delivered via EIT? "

You can't get it on DVB-T :)

ivan

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Ultimate Geek
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#278614 2-Dec-2009 08:24

Though you can get it from one of the hosted XML files, some of which include category information, title normalisation, augmentation from themoviedb etc.

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itey

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#278625 2-Dec-2009 08:40

icetv: Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Keep it coming!

What are the shortfalls (if any) with the current data being delivered via EIT?

it doesn't have things like genres in it

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Master Geek

#278906 3-Dec-2009 00:07

I would definately pay for an easy iPhone app, to start a recording when I'm out, especially for tv3, as most programs already available for tvnz 'ondemand'

rvangelder

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Ultimate Geek

#278929 3-Dec-2009 07:47

You can't get it on DVB-T :)

DVB-T is unavailable in my area, but as I understand it, the data is available as MHEG, but no translation yet exists to XML.

openmedia

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#279029 3-Dec-2009 14:06

icetv: Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Keep it coming!

What are the shortfalls (if any) with the current data being delivered via EIT?

Here's a start

Not available on DVB-T

Not normalised - Programs regularly change name

EIT category and rating information is incomplete or inaccurate

Very little series information

Poor descriptions, or repeated information week on week which isn't relevant to the episode

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rlevis

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Ultimate Geek
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#307462 15-Mar-2010 17:56

Now that Sky TV have cracked down on illegal EPG distribution, I could be interested in paying a small sum under $10 per month for EPG data in the form of a TVGuide.xml file suitable for MediaPortal and GBPVR, provided it did offer additional useful information such as program ratings (PGR/AO, etc).

ZorkTheHippie

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Wannabe Geek

#307488 15-Mar-2010 18:56

I would be keen for EPG data for EyeTV. Don't know if I would use the other features until I see them in action.

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Ultimate Geek
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#308051 16-Mar-2010 22:57

I would likewise be willing to pay for some sort of EPG provided it 1) Provided at least 14 days 2) Was a resonable cost, which for me is no more then NZ$1 per week or NZ$5 per month. NZ$10 per month is definitely too expensive in my book.

browned

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#308162 17-Mar-2010 09:31

Although I am not keen on paying for EPG, I am going to pay for BSE when it is finally released.

ICETV would need to consider what they are offering carefully and how much it will cost on an ongoing basis. Paying for something requires that something to be well worth it and head and shoulders better than the free offerings already available.

List of things that are important to me
1. Accurate information. (updated daily, so programming changes are made quickly)
2. Complete information. (accurate genres and program details, series and episode numbers)
3. New channels added quickly.
4. Compatable with BSE if ICETV only supply XML and no MXF tools.
5. All channels data available, including demo channels :-)
6. 8 Days are good, but 16 Days would be better :-)

My current pet hates with NZ EPG data are the "All New", "Final Season", "Movie" additions that seem to be making there way into the titles of programs. Some people are stupid but I would rather have basic titles and the detail in the description or the relevant XML/MXF column. Like I say Season 6 Episode 1 would do nicely.

I can also see the benefits to NZ IT resellers, being able to provide a Windows PC with TV tuner, and limited licenses of BSE and ICETV preinstalled and scheduled to download info daily would be great. Windows 7 MC would become that much more appealing to the average Joe Blogs if the EPG data was already setup.

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Wannabe Geek

#308168 17-Mar-2010 09:49

Thanks again to everyone for all the valuable feedback and suggestions regarding the possibilty of IceTV launching an independent EPG service for NZ.

For those that may be interested in getting involved with IceTV from the start (whether it be as a beta tester, or potential NZ employee), please contact our team via the 'General Feedback' option on our contact us page (www.icetv.com.au/contactus).

We will continue to keep everyone updated and make suitable announcements if and when the time comes.

In the meantime, keep your feedback coming.... and watch this space!

Cheers,

IceTV

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#308169 17-Mar-2010 09:50

browned:My current pet hates with NZ EPG data are the "All New", "Final Season", "Movie" additions that seem to be making there way into the titles of programs. Some people are stupid but I would rather have basic titles and the detail in the description or the relevant XML/MXF column. Like I say Season 6 Episode 1 would do nicely.

Depends what one you used. The old epg.pvr.geek.nz feed and the new nzepg.org feed normalised all that cruft out of there.

I agree that if a for-pay option was available it would need to be very good to compete with the free versions out there. Including;

* Perfectly normalised titles
* Series IDs
* Episode numbers
* Episode titles
* Widescreen
* HD
* Categories
* Cast/Crew
* Repeats
* Premieres
* Ratings
* Star ratings

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