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  #967836 15-Jan-2014 21:52
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dmartora: is certainly not like being at the movies, but then very little is when you're watching on TV


That's my view of present flat screens.  I had projectors for many years, with a standard 100" screen size and that really did produce the wow factor.
My family and friends think I'm being silly/rude when I don't find 50" or 60" TV's particularly large or capable of producing of 'that cinema feeling'.



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  #967872 16-Jan-2014 00:42
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Jaxson:
dmartora: is certainly not like being at the movies, but then very little is when you're watching on TV


That's my view of present flat screens.  I had projectors for many years, with a standard 100" screen size and that really did produce the wow factor.
My family and friends think I'm being silly/rude when I don't find 50" or 60" TV's particularly large or capable of producing of 'that cinema feeling'.


how rude!




note : yeah i do the same thing having had a 106 inch screen for the last 5 years :p

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  #968036 16-Jan-2014 10:51
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geocom: First of all I actually like 3D content.

The only 2 issues I have seen are.
1. Active glasses should have never been invented they have some real problems and cost a fortune but most early 3d TV's came with these.
2. There are people who cannot view 3d my grandparents for one could not see any difference. Although the same thing could be said about stereo audio.

Mighty Ape have a selection of 3d Blu-Ray disks as well. If you want to watch a amazing 3d video then watch ww2 in 3d.

4K content is going to have some major issues.
4K files are going to be huge. 3d is 2 HD screens. Where as 4k is 4 HD screens worth of data.
Freeview are highly unlikely to start 4k streaming as you can sell 4 different channels for the same amount of bandwidth in HD. Even less likely on Sky and a snowballs chance in hell on sat freeview.





Active glasses used to cost a fortune (and still do if you go through the rip off retail stores) but you can get them for under $40 on Trademe now, and even less on ebay



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  #969677 19-Jan-2014 15:54
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The problems I have with 3D is at least on my samsung, it sucks. Crosstalk, loses motion plus and the flicker is unbareable.

Tried a friends LG and it ended up like looking thru venetian blinds - horrid experiance but at least no added flicker. His TV was set up with bad motion becasue that's how he likes it, so I have no idea if the LG can keep the processing running while it is showing 3D.

A move to 4K might make the loss of resolution tollerable on the polarizing glasses ones. But I have no idea how many Hz would be needed to get shutter glasses working acceptably.




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  #969681 19-Jan-2014 16:04
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ruben999: Hi everyone,

Is 3D TV taking off?

Are there any channels that support 3D? In the near future?

Do all new movies (that are 3D in the cinema) come out on 3D Blueray/DVD?

If No, how do I justify buying a 3D TV? I know its only a few hundreds more, but I just dont see the benefit.

And I wont even get started on those silly glasses :).

Thanks guys. 

Ruben


If you like 3D content, then buy a 3D TV. 

I wouldn't buy a TV now that can't do 3D. But then I also like 3D movies...and I have been making my own 3D content for almost 4 years now. I have loads of 3D photos and video going back to 2010. Some of it is of people who are no longer alive. 

I play 3D blurays and there are many thousands of 3D videos on YouTube that are playable on a 3D TV connected to the Internet. There are no broadcast channels (unless Sky have one). 

As for glasses...I buy the LG passive gear....and the glasses for them are a micro-fraction of the cost for anyone using non-passive tech. In a pinch you can even use the $1 passive glasses from the cinema. I have a dozen or so pairs lying around the lounge. 

I have no problem wearing glasses to see things in 3D. Millions of people do that all day every day or they would bump into things. :-)

But glasses-free 3D TV would be nice. They are coming soon apparently.  






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  #969683 19-Jan-2014 16:07
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richms: The problems I have with 3D is at least on my samsung, it sucks. Crosstalk, loses motion plus and the flicker is unbareable.

Tried a friends LG and it ended up like looking thru venetian blinds - horrid experiance but at least no added flicker. His TV was set up with bad motion becasue that's how he likes it, so I have no idea if the LG can keep the processing running while it is showing 3D.

A move to 4K might make the loss of resolution tollerable on the polarizing glasses ones. But I have no idea how many Hz would be needed to get shutter glasses working acceptably.


I use an LG 3D (passive) PC monitor as a 3D TV in one room and have no idea what you're talking about WRT "motion". What do you mean? It just displays whatever is there. 

Everything looks fine here.  




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  #969684 19-Jan-2014 16:07
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richms: The problems I have with 3D is at least on my samsung, it sucks. Crosstalk, loses motion plus and the flicker is unbareable.

Tried a friends LG and it ended up like looking thru venetian blinds - horrid experiance but at least no added flicker. His TV was set up with bad motion becasue that's how he likes it, so I have no idea if the LG can keep the processing running while it is showing 3D.

A move to 4K might make the loss of resolution tollerable on the polarizing glasses ones. But I have no idea how many Hz would be needed to get shutter glasses working acceptably.


I use an LG 3D (passive) PC monitor as a 3D TV in one room and have no idea what you're talking about WRT "motion". What do you mean? It just displays whatever is there. 

Everything looks fine here.  




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  #969686 19-Jan-2014 16:12
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Linuxluver:
richms: The problems I have with 3D is at least on my samsung, it sucks. Crosstalk, loses motion plus and the flicker is unbareable.

Tried a friends LG and it ended up like looking thru venetian blinds - horrid experiance but at least no added flicker. His TV was set up with bad motion becasue that's how he likes it, so I have no idea if the LG can keep the processing running while it is showing 3D.

A move to 4K might make the loss of resolution tollerable on the polarizing glasses ones. But I have no idea how many Hz would be needed to get shutter glasses working acceptably.


I use an LG 3D (passive) PC monitor as a 3D TV in one room and have no idea what you're talking about WRT "motion". What do you mean? It just displays whatever is there. 

Everything looks fine here.  


No motion plus so it nativly is displaying 24Hz repeating identical frames on the screen so it looks as smooth as a flipbook or powerpoint transition.




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  #976468 29-Jan-2014 09:43
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I haven't had time to read it yet, but yesterday's junk email from GamePlanet.co.nz had this item on 4K TV sets ...

The 4K fallacy: Why ultra-hi-def is pointless for Kiwis


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  #976879 29-Jan-2014 20:02
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Put a BluRay on next to a UHD demo (on suitable TV's) and the difference is greater than it should be...
I can't explain why, but it's certainly there.
The promise of increased colour gamut is enticing, I must say...

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  #976887 29-Jan-2014 20:27
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Over compression on most bluray releases and them filtering the resolution down to avoid complaints of jaggies on crappy playback systems.




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  #976898 29-Jan-2014 21:08
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Well I have a 60" 3D plasma and a few discs but find the experience underwhelming.

But I did see something at CES this year based on 3D technology that could be a useful byproduct. It was dual view from Samsung if I recall.

Basically the TV showed two completely different images viewable as separate images using special glasses. You could switch the view to one or the other image being shown and audio (through little speakers in the glasses) obviously matched the video.

So one person could be watching say an action TV show while the other was watching some prime time soap. So you have some time together without inflicting your programme taste on the other person :-)




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  #976909 29-Jan-2014 21:24
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I saw that in Vegas a few years back and thought it could be quite cool... but if you nod your head, or shook it - you'd start to get glimpses of the other source.

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  #976916 29-Jan-2014 21:44
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lchiu7: Well I have a 60" 3D plasma and a few discs but find the experience underwhelming.

But I did see something at CES this year based on 3D technology that could be a useful byproduct. It was dual view from Samsung if I recall.

Basically the TV showed two completely different images viewable as separate images using special glasses. You could switch the view to one or the other image being shown and audio (through little speakers in the glasses) obviously matched the video.

So one person could be watching say an action TV show while the other was watching some prime time soap. So you have some time together without inflicting your programme taste on the other person :-)


LG have been doing something like that for awhile for split screen gaming. 

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  #976929 29-Jan-2014 21:54
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i love 3d but there is a lack of content :/

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